The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[Oneworldplus2]

I'm pretty sure that both first and second jab contain same amount of mRNA.

 

[burmans]

Something has happened to the NSW state delivered jabs this week, a significant drop from 45-50K daily to 31K today and 28K yesterday.

I'm guessing they've either exhausted their Pfizer supply or AZ appointments are rebooking for Pfizer now there will be more supply shortly.

I'm hoping it's this rather than starting to run into vaccine hesitancy though I guess the second of your options relates to this. Anyway increased Pfizer will flow very soon so we get to see if it is that pretty quickly.

 

[Katie]

Happy to report only a slight inflammation at the needle site for both of us and a little slower the next morning (that may be because of Lions losing) .

Next jab already booked for 3 weeks time - whilst I'm not sue the efficacy is at it's best after only 3 weeks, I understand the second jab is a much greater concentration of the virus so higher likelihood of after effects. Good to get it done on a Saturday, so have the Sunday to recover at home

@QF WP - FWIW, I had minimal side effects from either jab. Second one I was expecting to be hit, but wasn't. I was at work, telling someone how I maybe had a headache and was thinking of taking some panadol. They suggested if I thought I should, then I should. So I did. Another dose of panadol later in the afternoon, and I was fine.

Have the Teen booked in at Boondall this weekend for jab 1 and I'm hoping they're also minimally affected.

 

[Batterytraveller]

Another misinfo text from the coughweasel leader of the yellow and black party.

Is there anything I can do to publically express my disgust at such a miserable excuse for a human being?

 

[justinbrett]

I'm hoping it's this rather than starting to run into vaccine hesitancy though I guess the second of your options relates to this. Anyway increased Pfizer will flow very soon so we get to see if it is that pretty quickly.

I don't think so, there are some Pfizer appointments available but not a lot. Some parts of Sydney are already above 80 and even 85% so natural demand starts dropping off - but a lot of the regions don't have their share of Pfizer yet. Where I live in Newcastle we are only at 65% and Pfizer has not been widely available, those due to start in October.

NSW expected to have limited vaccines in September due to the pull forwards, so kind of makes sense. Once the extra supply hits towards the end of the week this should bounce back up. The state average will still get to 80% by early next week, PHC vaccines are still strong.

Happy to report only a slight inflammation at the needle site for both of us and a little slower the next morning (that may be because of Lions losing) .

Next jab already booked for 3 weeks time - whilst I'm not sue the efficacy is at it's best after only 3 weeks, I understand the second jab is a much greater concentration of the virus so higher likelihood of after effects. Good to get it done on a Saturday, so have the Sunday to recover at home

I'm on day 3 (had 2nd jab on monday) and I've been hit for six - strong fever/chills and it's basically developed into a bad flu.

It's exactly the same dose, it's no greater concentration, but because you already have some immunity your body can generate a stronger response (that's my understanding anyway). The younger you are the more likely you are to have side effects, which is the opposite of what I would have guessed.

 

[bcworld]

Is there anything I can do to publically express my disgust at such a miserable excuse for a human being?

Craig Kelly's mobile number has been widely publicised if you want to let him know.

Ironically, 2.5 years ago the UAP used an unsolicited political SMS to say they'd ban unsolicited political SMS!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1085429894010396672

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I'm hoping it's this rather than starting to run into vaccine hesitancy though I guess the second of your options relates to this. Anyway increased Pfizer will flow very soon so we get to see if it is that pretty quickly.

Not sure how figures will be calculated when jabs go in 12-15's arms - its already started happening unofficially. At the moment it should be a minimal impact, but from next week 12-15s should have a growing impact.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

US, UK already signed vaccine deals with Pfizer before Australia met with company​

It's been revealed the USA and UK had already signed supply deals with Pfizer by the time the Health Minister Greg Hunt's office held its first meeting with the vaccine manufacturer.

Documents obtained under Freedom of Information laws provide fresh insight into the negotiations between health department officials and representatives from Pfizer Australia.

They reveal the company first contacted the government on June 26, 2020, warning the "vaccine development landscape was moving swiftly" and asked to meet with Mr Hunt "at the earliest opportunity".

According to the documents, Mr Hunt's office didn't meet with Pfizer until August 4, a fortnight after the UK and USA had signed supply deals with the company.

Australia then announced its own supply deal, for 10 million doses, in November 2020.

 

[mviy]

With the benefit of hindsight they may have done a deal with Pfizer earlier, but we had two promising vaccines in the AstraZeneca vaccine (which has proven to be a better vaccine than Pfizer despite the fear over extremely rare side effects) and the UoQ vaccine that unfortunately didn't pass the trials.

Pfizer logistically is more challenging to roll-out due to the cold storage requirements and also is more expensive. Originally our government intended Pfizer to play a much smaller role in our rollout, but as the UoQ vaccine failed due to false HIV positive tests and also later when the fears grew over extremely rare side effects of AstraZeneca the role of Pfizer in the rollout was expanded.

There was an article a while back saying that one person over 60 had died with the rare side effect of AZ in Australia, but 995 people over 60 had died with COVID (probably over a thousand now) despite far more people being vaccinated than exposed to the virus. With those odds I know what I'd pick.

 

[JB expat]

With the benefit of hindsight they may have done a deal with Pfizer earlier, but we had two promising vaccines in the AstraZeneca vaccine (which has proven to be a better vaccine than Pfizer despite the fear over extremely rare side effects) and the UoQ vaccine that unfortunately didn't pass the trials.

Pfizer logistically is more challenging to roll-out due to the cold storage requirements and also is more expensive. Originally our government intended Pfizer to play a much smaller role in our rollout, but as the UoQ vaccine failed due to false HIV positive tests and also later when the fears grew over extremely rare side effects of AstraZeneca the role of Pfizer in the rollout was expanded.

There was an article a while back saying that one person over 60 had died with the rare side effect of AZ in Australia, but 995 people over 60 had died with COVID (probably over a thousand now) despite far more people being vaccinated than exposed to the virus. With those odds I know what I'd pick.

I wish they had proceeded with the UofQ vaccine. Not sure if I am representative of thousands, but I would have taken the UofQ vaccine even if it resulted in false HIV tests. I engage in zero risk behavior in terms of HIV - I would have happily taken an HIV test as a condition precedent to taking the UofQ vaccine to provide the medical record that I was negative. My husband feels the same. I think the false positive HIV would be problematic for others, but it would have been an additional vaccine that might have had decent uptake.

 

[jrfsp]

I wish they had proceeded with the UofQ vaccine. Not sure if I am representative of thousands, but I would have taken the UofQ vaccine even if it resulted in false HIV tests. I engage in zero risk behavior in terms of HIV - I would have happily taken an HIV test as a condition precedent to taking the UofQ vaccine to provide the medical record that I was negative. My husband feels the same. I think the false positive HIV would be problematic for others, but it would have been an additional vaccine that might have had decent uptake.

Problem is it probably wouldnt have been recognised overseas.

 

[justinbrett]

I wish they had proceeded with the UofQ vaccine. Not sure if I am representative of thousands, but I would have taken the UofQ vaccine even if it resulted in false HIV tests. I engage in zero risk behavior in terms of HIV - I would have happily taken an HIV test as a condition precedent to taking the UofQ vaccine to provide the medical record that I was negative. My husband feels the same. I think the false positive HIV would be problematic for others, but it would have been an additional vaccine that might have had decent uptake.

I think the problem would have been the antivaxers screaming "Covid vaccines give you aids"

 

[Amanad78]

@QF WP - FWIW, I had minimal side effects from either jab. Second one I was expecting to be hit, but wasn't. I was at work, telling someone how I maybe had a headache and was thinking of taking some panadol. They suggested if I thought I should, then I should. So I did. Another dose of panadol later in the afternoon, and I was fine.

Have the Teen booked in at Boondall this weekend for jab 1 and I'm hoping they're also minimally affected.

I had 2 teens minimally affected, sore arms only. Then 1 teen who slept and slept and didn't feel great and resulted in 1 day off school. All good now.

 

[JB expat]

I think the problem would have been the antivaxers screaming "Covid vaccines give you aids"

very good point

 

[Must...Fly!]

Well this forum might have seen such an episode of "it gives you HIV" several months ago, so yes it certainly would've gone down that road unfortunately.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Hmm, vax slowing this week ... ? enthusiasm? blip? end of a push ?

 

[N860CR]

Hmm, vax slowing this week ... ? enthusiasm? blip? end of a push ?

With NSW approaching 75% first dose, I'd say they're starting to run out of willing participants and that will bring the national rate down. Still a good result. I always thought 80% was ambitious but I am happy to say I've been proven wrong and we'll cross that line. 90% seems like a push without the stick coming out. It may be that the fence sitters will need to see others freedoms.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The vaccination uptake numbers seem to be moderately slowing (when comparing to the same day of the previous week - I think its 7 consecutive days of slowdown already).

Wonder what Lieutenant-General is cooking up to keep uptake high.

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[Princess Fiona]

With NSW approaching 75% first dose, I'd say they're starting to run out of willing participants and that will bring the national rate down. Still a good result. I always thought 80% was ambitious but I am happy to say I've been proven wrong and we'll cross that line. 90% seems like a push without the stick coming out. It may be that the fence sitters will need to see others freedoms.

Still a ton of people in the regions who haven’t yet really been exposed to Covid or prevented from doing something that vaccinated people can.
That and the “I’m medically suitable for AZ but waiting for Pfizer” crew will get us over the line.

 

[mviy]

39.7% of 16+ fully vaccinated. We should go past 40% when today's numbers are released tomorrow. We are nearly half-way to the key 80% goal on the national average (well probably already there, the numbers for today's vaccinations just haven't been released yet)!

75-79 at 70.4% fully vaccinated is the first age group to go past 70%.

80-84 is the second age group to go past 90% with a first dose (90.1%).

60-64 is at 80.4% first dose. So all the AZ only age groups have gone past 80% first dose.

60-64 is at 49.6% second dose. When today's numbers are released tomorrow every age group 50-54 and up should be past 50% fully vaccinated.

30-34 is at 49.8% first dose. When today's numbers are released tomorrow every age group 30-34 and up should be past 50% with a first dose.

20-24 is at 40.6% with a first dose. Every age group 20-24 and up is over half way to 80% first dose.

NSW first dose climbed from 74.8% to 75.56%, so 0.76% of 16+ got a first dose there yesterday.

VIC climbed from 61.59% to 62.54% so 0.95% of 16+ got a first dose there yesterday.

Only ACT did better than VIC, and only ACT and VIC did better than NSW on first doses yesterday as a percentage of the 16+ population.

Only the ACT did better than NSW on second doses for 16+ yesterday as a percentage of the 16+ population.

VIC reached 60.43% second dose for 50+ and NSW reached 60.25% for the same age group, both going past 60%.

NSW should go past 70% fully vaccinated for 70+ when today's numbers are released tomorrow.

TAS has reached 90.08% first dose for 70+.