The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[Lynda2475]

Legislating to allow businesses and venues to legally discriminate against the unvaccinated is low cost, but a huge incentive if people want to be able to eat out, go to the gym, theatre, movies, offices etc.

 

[RAM]

No because workplace AZ vaccinations have never been a widespread thing in NSW. Hospital workers in NSW Sydney who were vaccinated at hospital hubs under 1a and 1b got Pfizer (and quite often at a different hospital to the one they worked at)

Use of AZ outside of hospitals has been far from limited (as you claimed), GPs have been the main way nationally for AZ delivery.

So your statement was far from 100% accurate, therefore misinformation.

Just might correct you there.

Were supposed to get Pfizer but many were booked in, without being asked, in Weeks 7/8/9 for AZ - this included medical students & nursing students as well as visiting consultants etc.

One complete team, CV facing (so Priority Group 1A) at one of NSW's largest public hospitals were appalled to find that by W4 all admin staff (regardless of where in the campus) had been fully vaccinated with Pfizer, as had all the Local Health Board members and other hangers on.

Some members of the above team took AL in protest over not being able to book for a Pfizer shot. Despite head of team putting in requests - nothing happened until after publicity about unvaccinated person catching CV who worked in a hospital. Then they were all booked in for AZ.

For medical & nursing students, visiting consultants etc - an email was sent out instructing them to book in for AZ by the end of the day. Many 'forgot to', & were/are holding out for Pfizer.

Some 6th yr medical students (sent home multiple times due to CV+ person being treated in A&E) only got their 1st Pfizer dose in late May due to one very senior doctor openly 'challenging' NSW Health over this. Now contemplating giving up entirely.

Not one of the 'incidents' that we know about with a CV+ person has ever been listed by NSW Health, 'as there was no need as we had all patient contact data'. Pity about the people on the bus, or the taxi/uber drivers who brought those people to hospital.

That is the reality as opposed to the spin being pushed in the media for at least this Local Health area.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Is there a list somewhere of vaccinated % per country.

Lists in newspapers show we are 78th but I never see a link to the website.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research. You can change some of the parameters e.g fully vaccinated, or doses etc, but I think it’s all out of total population not adult population.

a quick and easy one which I use is

11,853,849 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

covidlive.com.au

Down the bottom they have all the country vaccinations. It’s doses per total population. They display some relevant ones but if you click on the vaccinations heading you will get all countries. Australia has been moving between 81st and 78th for months. I am hoping that the new vaccination rates might finally see us break out.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Legislating to allow businesses and venues to legally discriminate against the unvaccinated is low cost, but a huge incentive if people want to be able to eat out, go to the gym, theatre, movies, offices etc.

Food for thought before anyone dismisses this as silly (NB: not sure where I stand).

Latest Information on the Coronavirus Situation in Austria

Protective measures, entry regulations and more: Everything you need to know for your holiday in Austria in times of coronavirus.

www.austria.info

 

[dajop]

You can see the other states at https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...eographic-vaccination-rates-2-august-2021.pdf

Good to see my "home town" currently leading the race for first doses (Bendigo @52.6%)! But I guess it's not a race.

 

[Flying mermaid]

30 to 39 year olds were able to register an interest in vaccinations in the ACT a few weeks ago. At 7am today emails were sent out inviting people to make appointments. A friend of Ms FM phoned at 7:06 and was 99th in the queue. Apparently enough appointments have been made to exhaust Pfizer allocation until mid September. Of the 71,000 in that age group, 16,000 have already been vaccinated and a further 20,000 pre registered.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Legislating to allow businesses and venues to legally discriminate against the unvaccinated is low cost, but a huge incentive if people want to be able to eat out, go to the gym, theatre, movies, offices etc.

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In terms of vaccine passports, there are myriad roadmaps around the world, but the best justification I have seen came from Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said a fortnight ago.

“Those who refuse vaccines,” he said, “are endangering their health, those around them and the freedom of every Israeli citizen. They are endangering our freedom to work, the freedom of our children to learn and the freedom to hold celebrations with the family. Those who refuse vaccines hurt us all because if all of us were vaccinated, we would all be able to maintain daily life. But if one million Israelis continue to not get vaccinated, this will oblige the eight million others to shut themselves in their homes.

“Therefore, the cabinet decided today that as of 8 August, those who refuse vaccines will not be able to go to the cinema, the theatre, the synagogue, the amusement park, the soccer game or any activity with over 100 people, indoors or out, unless they bring negative results from a coronavirus test, at their expense.”...

Stay home, anti-vaxxers: while we part-ay! Our COVID passports are coming

Two tiers of access - between the vaxxed and unvaxxed - is a no-brainer.

www.smh.com.au

 

[RAM]

And you need to implement this vaccine privilige (no jab no play) now for anyone aged over 50 who have already had months to get vaccinated, then phase it in for 40-49s from September and 16-39s from November to ensure we get to 80% by Christmas.

Not correct about over 50s being able to get vaccines for months.

There are still around 30% of Group 1A Priority - Disability Care facility residents still to get their first dose, and despite it being announced as Pfizer - most done since the ZERO level in May have been given AZ.

Equally the number of Pfizer doses that had been received up until 30 June would only have vaccinated Group 1A and part of Group 1B, forget about over 50s.

That is, if the booking system did prioritise people as advertised - which it did not.

For example, there was no drop-down choice for household contacts of Group 1A medical staff, despite it being announced. And still wasn't the last time I checked in early July. Finally got a booking when GPs began with Pfizer, 2nd dose set for 6 weeks time.

By now, most have realised that what the Federal Govt says about how well it is doing with buying vaccines & rolling them out has had no basis in reality.

First in the queue for vaccines...

Signed a contract with Pfizer...

Disability Care facility residents & workers will be our highest priority...

So many lies told. Just wish there was a Federal Version of the ICAC.

Actually that was another announcement wasn't it?

Today's Federal Media briefing is worth watching a copy of, especially the part about why the booking system doesn't work as advertised, and one man's weekend effort to provide a workaround.

 

[dairyfloss]

Good to see my "home town" currently leading the race for first doses (Bendigo @52.6%)! But I guess it's not a race.

Correct - absolutely not a race.

ps. I'm 1 statistical area & 0.7% behind you, but with a better double jabbed rate. Take that!

 

[dajop]

ps. I'm 1 statistical area & 0.7% behind you, but with a better double jabbed rate. Take that!

Not behind me, behind my "home town".

You're well behind "me" (based on where I am actually residing, which is not even in Australia), with 77% first dose and 62% fully vaccinated But yes, it's not a race.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Good to see my "home town" currently leading the race for first doses (Bendigo @52.6%)! But I guess it's not a race.

It’s definitely not a 1-Jab race.

But the ‘freedom’ plan does raise a 2-jab race.

Whether it ends up a race or a dawdle - who know?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Not behind me, behind my "home town".

You're well behind "me" (based on where I am actually residing, which is not even in Australia), with 77% first dose and 62% fully vaccinated But yes, it's not a race.

How does the country you reside in determine the %? - of population, of eligible
Is the vaccine available to everyone? I think migrant workers was an issue previously
I think they even jabbed students before and after school holidays.

 

[dajop]

How does the country you reside in determine the %? - of population, of eligible
Is the vaccine available to everyone? I think migrant workers was an issue previously
I think they even jabbed students before and after school holidays.

I believe it's % of total population, not just eligible, and yes vaccines have been provided to migrant workers too, even with Pfizer or Moderna (several of us had a theory that they were keeping Sinovac for migrant workers, but it seems we were wrong on this one).

 

[mviy]

19.7% of 16+ with 2 doses. We should pass 20% when today's numbers are released tomorrow. So 1/4 of the way to the goal.

80.2% 1st dose and 50.5% 2nd dose for 90-94.

25.3% 2nd dose for 40-44. So both 40-44 and 45-49 has over 1/4 fully vaccinated.

65-69 first dose may reach 70% when today's numbers are released tomorrow.

TAS 70+ should reach over 50% fully vaccinated when today's numbers are released tomorrow, the first state to achieve this (ACT is a territory and has already achieved that).

 

[TheRealTMA]

Covid vaccination map of Australia: which areas have the highest and lowest vaccine rates?

The federal government has released statistics for vaccination rates by area. Here you can see the Australian coronavirus vaccine rate figures and data as an interactive map, or a sortable table

www.theguardian.com

 

[jakeseven7]

Thank all that is good something happened outside Sydney but in NSW. I didn't want another interminable discussion

Yes thank goodness, great news…. On both fronts. Seems like a couple of people are well and truly back from a ‘holiday’ and back with the misinformation too sadly.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Really shows that it's the regions where the health officials are going to have to work the hardest, right around the country. EDIT: except maybe in Victoria where the regions are ahead of Melbourne.

Note with the areas that are low, that a lower average age is one key reason why some areas have low vaccination rates as those areas with a younger population have more people not eligible to be vaccinated earlier.

Though other factors are also at play including demographics, ability to take time off work etc

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By Michael Doyle​

Victoria's vaccination rates are lower in areas hit hard by COVID infections​

Vaccination data released by the Commonwealth, breaking down rates by geographic location, has shown Melbourne's north west, west and south east have the lowest rates of vaccination in Victoria.​

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Those areas include some of the suburbs with the highest infection rates during Melbourne's outbreaks, particularly during the second wave.​

Just 34.7 per cent of people in the Melbourne — North West area aged over 15 have had one dose of a vaccine, and 15.6 per cent have had two doses.​

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The area takes in suburbs such as Sunbury, Craigieburn and Broadmeadows, as well as parts of the Macedon Ranges.​

Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows about 430,000 people live in the area, with about a quarter of those born overseas in the 2016 census. The median age is about 35, meaning much of the population has not been officially eligible for a vaccine.​

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It's a similar picture in the Melbourne — West area, which takes in suburbs like Sunshine, Truganina and Werribee, where only 16.5 per cent have had two doses and the median age is 34.​

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That's compared to the Melbourne — Inner South area, where 23.1 per cent of the population has had both doses. The median age there is higher than the national average, at 39.​

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Bendigo in central Victoria has the highest rates in the entire country, with 25.1 per cent of the population having two doses of the vaccine.​

"Some of it will relate to the demographics of those households," the state's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said earlier.​

"The disparities that occur tend to be socioeconomic in terms of vaccine uptake, even though they're same disparities that have led to more COVID cases in Victoria and around the world."​

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Professor Sutton said there were some areas that were more subject to "misinformation or disinformation" about vaccines.​

"We need to understand, recognize that and respond to it appropriately. But I think Victoria is doing very well overall," he said.​

Nationally, 40.96 per cent of the over-16 population has had one dose, and 19.23 per cent have had both.​

 

[Lynda2475]

The Doherty Institute presentation from today's PM presser can be found in full here: DocumentCloud

Its important to understand that:


Note however as repeated at the presser multiple times, the 70% target is to move to next phase, it has zero bearing on when stated opt to come out of any lockdowns in place whilst in the current phase. So NSW does not have to get 70% vacination to get out of the current lockdown.

 

[Lynda2475]

Not correct about over 50s being able to get vaccines for months.

Sorry you are incorrect.

1A have been eligible for vaccination since February (over 5 months). Priority appointments are given to this cohort at State hubs for anyone who has been tardy in booking in.

1B have been eligible since late March (over 4 months).

All other over 50-69s have been eligible for vaccination since the start of May. The advice re Pfizer for 50-59s changed in June (and they were immediately able to register for that instead, but could still choose to get AZ). So they have had 3 full months to book and get an AZ jab.

40-49s were able to get Pfizer jabs from late of May (by waitlist) and by direct booking from mid June. And could choose AZ via a GP (like everyone over 18) since July.

Just because you know of some people who havent been vaccinated in 1A or 1B doesnt change their eligiblity or the fact that they (or their carers) have had the ability to book them in for AZ at RCs or GP or special disablity hubs not to mention the ability to request a GP home vaccination visit. Or if eligible for Pfizer book in at a State hub. Yes there is a wait for Pfizer at the state hubs but with some persistence appointments can be secured.

Further those with a disablity who are unable to attend a GP (even with assisatnce) are also unlikley to be out and about going to the theatre or clubbing etc, therefore not being eligible for entry to those venues due to not being vaccinated yet isnt going to impact them now. And their eligiblity to attend will change when their vaccination status does, tahts the whole carrot and stick approach.

Private businesses should have the right to deny entry to the unvaccinated to keep their staff and other patrons safe. If you dont avila yourself of vaccine, you are choosing to opt out of access to many venues.

 

[mviy]

Note however as repeated at the presser multiple times, the 70% target is to move to next phase, it has zero bearing on when stated opt to come out of any lockdowns in place whilst in the current phase. So NSW does not have to get 70% vacination to get out of the current lockdown.

That is assuming you think NSW is likely to “eliminate” community transmission or give up on elimination prior to reaching 70%. I don’t think the Premier has decided to let it rip.