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State border closures illegal under the highest law in the country?

muppet

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The NZ PM and Deputy have both said in the last couple of days that they'd like a bubble to be operating by Christmas with QLD, Tasmania and NSW the states that they would consider being involved.
I honestly can’t see how that will work because I’m pretty sure the NSW Premier will want to open to Victoria as soon as its safe.... but the NZ PM is much more risk averse.

If NZ needs Victorians excluded how will that work. The NSW Premier is the most reasonable in this crisis so I can’t see her maintaining a Vic border for a couple of 737s worth of New Zealanders.
 

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If say the States drop their borders but don’t agree to hotspot, how would the Federal Government stop a NZ person crossing into the ‘recalcitrant’ State?
I suspect if there are still states playing state politics with domestic borders they will just not be allowed international flights - period. Which would actually be very very bad for states like QLD who rely on tourism so heavily.

But yes, if MEL and SYD and ADL have flights coming in from NZ I'm not sure how you would police NZ customers transferring onto domestic flights to QLD, WA, TAS for example - assuming of course those states even have their domestic borders open by then....
 

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I honestly can’t see how that will work because I’m pretty sure the NSW Premier will want to open to Victoria as soon as its safe.... but the NZ PM is much more risk averse.

If NZ needs Victorians excluded how will that work. The NSW Premier is the most reasonable in this crisis so I can’t see her maintaining a Vic border for a couple of 737s worth of New Zealanders.
That's what PM Ardern has said she'd be happy with, but if Gladys opened to Victoria (a hotspot) then NSW would most likely be off the list.
 

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I honestly can’t see how that will work because I’m pretty sure the NSW Premier will want to open to Victoria as soon as its safe.... but the NZ PM is much more risk averse.

If NZ needs Victorians excluded how will that work. The NSW Premier is the most reasonable in this crisis so I can’t see her maintaining a Vic border for a couple of 737s worth of New Zealanders.
Exactly, NSW are already planning for the reopening of the VIC borders.

There is absolutely no way NZ would be prioritised over VIC.

Anyway we are talking this coming into effect in a few months and the rate VIC is crushing their outbreak now, they will probably be up for NZ flights themselves.
 

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Well clearly we think NZ is a State or Territory of Australia ....lol.

the other factor is NZ shutting down once there is one case of community transmission/mystery case.....imagine being mid-flight.
 

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Well clearly we think NZ is a State or Territory of Australia ....lol.

the other factor is NZ shutting down once there is one case of community transmission/mystery case.....imagine being mid-flight.
Ultimately we need to focus on what is best for Australia (as a whole). NZ can stay locked down indefinitely if they don't agree with Australia's arrangements, but NZ is the one hurting in the relationship as their economy is much worse off than ours.

There is no way that NZ will be prioritised over Australia's needs by the Federal Government, who are trying to sort out the impact of the domestic border closures (and consequential flow on for unemployment, Jobkeeper/seeker etc).
 

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Prediction: Scott Morrison will not allow states that don’t sign up to the federal hotspot management plan to have international travel.
It’s one power he has and can use.
We'd have to see how that goes in terms of the Constitution!
 
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Well clearly we think NZ is a State or Territory of Australia ....lol.

the other factor is NZ shutting down once there is one case of community transmission/mystery case.....imagine being mid-flight.
They'd be in good company with QLD, WA and TAS which is why it is critical that all these minion states agree to a hotspot definition that is smaller than a whole state of people :rolleyes:
 

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Hopefully the High court decides the Constitution has now been breached by then.
 
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