QF - No longer interline/through-check bags on separate PNR's [non oneworld]

[pauly7]

I think QFCSA has already made that point, attacking the argument rather than the person.

As I was on the iphone app those posts went before mine loaded.

It was a joke, hence the smile ! I don't think Drrron was offended but if you were Markis10 I apologise

DRRON, I don't think you are slow at all - the title of the thread is actually quite inaccurate and if you took it at face value I understand why you posted what you did.

 

[serfty]

[Was not coming back here but] Just noticed this from the posted FAQ's:

Between JQI and AAI, JLI, & RJI
(Also CX, AY,MA, LA from
end Oct 2010)

Baggage Interline Only​

So JQi will extend thier oneworld interlining of baggage ...

 

[markis10]

As I was on the iphone app those posts went before mine loaded.

It was a joke, hence the smile ! I don't think Drrron was offended but if you were Markis10 I apologise

DRRON, I don't think you are slow at all - the title of the thread is actually quite inaccurate and if you took it at face value I understand why you posted what you did.

I was trying to work out the title to be frank, saying non One World is not correct as well, maybe - "QF & Separate PNRs no longer interline/through check bags, exceptions apply."


Its been an interesting discussion, it would appear that people are having a lot issues with the spin, more so than the content!

 

[serfty]

I was trying to work out the title to be frank, saying non One World is not correct as well, maybe - "QF & Separate PNRs no longer interline/through check bags, exceptions apply." ...

I did edit the heading and deliberately generalised.

 

[markis10]

I did edit the heading and deliberately generalised.

Thanks - I was not happy with it !

 

[straitman]

I will try the QFD to JQI option on November 8th.
MEL-SYD on QF then SYD-HNL on JQ (different PNRs)

My reading of the link from Post #1 is that I can check bags through in MEL.
See:
Can you through check from Jetstar to Qantas?
The Policy with regard to customer through check and baggage interline between
Qantas and Jetstar services is unchanged from that applicable today, irrespective of
two separate PNRs.
Connections Through check/ Baggage Interline
provided
• Between QFI and JQI Yes
• Between QFI and AU JQD No
• Between QFD and AU JQD No
• Between QFD and JQI Yes
• Between QFI and NZ JQD Both provided at AKL when departing from
NZ.
Neither provided inbound to NZ
• Between QFI and 3K (SIN, BKK
& HKG
Yes
• Between QFI and VF (SIN) Yes
• Between JQI and AAI, JLI, & RJI
(Also CX, AY,MA, LA from
end Oct 2010)
Baggage interline only.

My reading of the Jetstar web site says:
Qantas (QF) Domestic to: Jetstar (JQ) International 1:45 (T2 to T1) or 1:30 (T3 to T1) or 2:00 (to JQ3) Provided^^
^^ For baggage to be through checked (transferred) your flights must be in the same booking (ie. Have the same booking reference number).

Am I missing something or do they contradict each other?

 

[Alanslegal]

Regardless of whether people think these changes are right or wrong, in favour or against, have used this benefit or not - the reality is that this change is really another reduction in a QF benefit, which is very similar-like to the removal of WP 'anytime access'.

The biggest exxageration here is that QF will not interline baggage if on separate PNR's but WILL DO so if booked on one. So if you booked SYD-LAX-LAS on one ticket, QF will take the bag. If you booked the exact same flight and time but separately, eg SYD-LAX and LAX-LAS then QF will tell you to p*** off.

Sadly, QF could have turned a BENEFIT (whether used or not) into a marketing positive. But now with these changes, all Qantas is telling me is "we are identical to all other airlines, and we don't have to interline because 99% of the others don't". Just like anytime access, which was "just because nobody else offers it, we don't either" . I believe Red Roo did suggest that 'anytime access' was unique to QFFP.

Anyway, more marketing spin from QF and more downgrade changes to the flying experience with QF.

 

[TheInsider]

Regardless of whether people think these changes are right or wrong, in favour or against, have used this benefit or not - the reality is that this change is really another reduction in a QF benefit, which is very similar-like to the removal of WP 'anytime access'.

The biggest exxageration here is that QF will not interline baggage if on separate PNR's but WILL DO so if booked on one. So if you booked SYD-LAX-LAS on one ticket, QF will take the bag. If you booked the exact same flight and time but separately, eg SYD-LAX and LAX-LAS then QF will tell you to p*** off.
.

Well if you LAX-LAS flight is with AA they would gladly do it for you. Any other airline that was booked seperatly well no, you do know that it's not just about the baggage??

OT: You have to pick up your bags in LAX anyway and drop them back off for any international (MEL-LAX-YVR) or domestic connection (MEL-LAX-SFO).

 

[oz_mark]

Anyway, more marketing spin from QF and more downgrade changes to the flying experience with QF.

I think you need to go back to the original statement to understand the Qantas position, in particular that it was identified as part of the learning from the disruption caused by the Volcano. I can only imagine how many people were expecting Qantas to deal with issues that Qantas knew nothing about due to being on separate PNR's.

Qantas are quite explicit in stating you will get an enhanced service if they are all on one PNR.

 

[straitman]

The biggest exxageration here is that QF will not interline baggage if on separate PNR's but WILL DO so if booked on one. So if you booked SYD-LAX-LAS on one ticket, QF will take the bag. If you booked the exact same flight and time but separately, eg SYD-LAX and LAX-LAS then QF will tell you to p*** off.

Alanslegal,

I believe you are wrong with this. If the LAX-LAS flight is with a OW carrier then all is OK. See: FAQ #4.
What exemptions apply to the new policy change?
The exemptions to this policy are:
• Travel with oneworld airlines and their oneworld affiliates.
• The two separate PNRs are Qantas marketed or operated (ie. Qantas to
Qantas travel).
• The customer’s journey is booked on a single ticket created by both live and/or
passive PNRs ( for example as used for Groups and Qantas Industry Centre
bookings).
• Air Pass products when appropriately cross referenced with a long-haul sector.

Sadly, QF could have turned a BENEFIT (whether used or not) into a marketing positive. But now with these changes, all Qantas is telling me is "we are identical to all other airlines, and we don't have to interline because 99% of the others don't". Just like anytime access, which was "just because nobody else offers it, we don't either" .

Agreed :!:

 

[Alanslegal]

Well if you LAX-LAS flight is with AA they would gladly do it for you. Any other airline that was booked seperatly well no, you do know that it's not just about the baggage??

OT: You have to pick up your bags in LAX anyway and drop them back off for any international (MEL-LAX-YVR) or domestic connection (MEL-LAX-SFO).

I understand it's not just about baggage (and the self baggage drop in some ports), but I think my point is the interlining was a benefit, and now it's gone.

 

[Alanslegal]

Alanslegal,

I believe you are wrong with this. If the LAX-LAS flight is with a OW carrier then all is OK. See: FAQ #4.
What exemptions apply to the new policy change?
The exemptions to this policy are:
• Travel with oneworld airlines and their oneworld affiliates.
• The two separate PNRs are Qantas marketed or operated (ie. Qantas to
Qantas travel).
• The customer’s journey is booked on a single ticket created by both live and/or
passive PNRs ( for example as used for Groups and Qantas Industry Centre
bookings).
• Air Pass products when appropriately cross referenced with a long-haul sector.

Thank you for listing the exceptions.

I think I am just trying to refer to a situation a few years back where I flew US-QF and I was interlined. So putting that situation to me now, I can see that interline will fail at check-in.

 

[straitman]

Thank you for listing the exceptions.

I think I am just trying to refer to a situation a few years back where I flew US-QF and I was interlined. So putting that situation to me now, I can see that interline will fail at check-in.

I would (and will) take a copy of the SAQ pages form post #1. (Only 3 pages)

 

[wandering_fred]

Can I presume that the overseas JQ affiliates will not check through baggage connecting to QFI?

In particular Jetstar Asia (3K) REP-SIN connecting to QF SIN-PER.

At least there is 7 hours between arrival and departure...

Looks like more places that are becoming more difficult in which to wander

Fred

 

[oz_mark]

In particular Jetstar Asia (3K) REP-SIN connecting to QF SIN-PER.

According to the FAQ, interlining between 3K and QFI will still occur at SIN, BKK and HKG.

 

[straitman]

Can I presume that the overseas JQ affiliates will not check through baggage connecting to QFI?

In particular Jetstar Asia (3K) REP-SIN connecting to QF SIN-PER.

At least there is 7 hours between arrival and departure...

Looks like more places that are becoming more difficult in which to wander

Fred

Fred,

Per my post (the one above yours) the FAQ are in Post #1 and they spell it out quite well. From what I read you still get the one you mentioned.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Ive used this service before when flying EK out of SYD on separate PNR's. I SPECIFICALLY chose to buy a QF fare from MEL-SYD so that I could interline my bags. Now that they remove this - I am more inclined to choose the carrier with the best price.

thumbs down

 

[wandering_fred]

Fred,

Per my post (the one above yours) the FAQ are in Post #1 and they spell it out quite well. From what I read you still get the one you mentioned.

My quick read implied QFI -> 3K worked but the other way round was not really stated.

Am I too cynical? We'll see.

Fred

 

[ReLoad]

Ok, so here's a question its kind of been answered but its still cloudy in my mind:

Trip which im planning for next year:

2 people myself and my father in law (FIL acronym), going to the USA.
First Leg MEL-LAX
1 ticket will be a JASA (Me)
the other will be a purchased ticket. (FIL)
Both in whY

We will then connect on AA to ORD via DFW.
I will fly in a F upgrade (for the sc's)
FIT will fly in y
(we will actually swap seats and he will fly in F but for the sake of the booking it will be me in F)

Return the same way.

So there is a lot of separate bookings there, and bookings not made at the same time, i.e via the AA website. should i go to a TA to handle this? normally i would do it all myself.

So how badly will i fubar the checkin clerk at QF Melbourne with both AA bookings and QF bookings? and what rules will i break by doing all this? and of course is there a smarter way to handle it all?

 

[TheInsider]

What are you trying to do?