QF Creating F+

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Seems like QF is going to have its new Asian based airline equipped with F+ that will challenge & beat SQ's R suites.

Will be interesting and I wonder what they have in mind?

Qantas's next step, the private jet experience

So I'm throwing it open, what will QF include in the F+ experience?
 
Seems like QF is going to have its new Asian based airline equipped with F+ that will challenge & beat SQ's R suites.

Will be interesting and I wonder what they have in mind?

Qantas's next step, the private jet experience

So I'm throwing it open, what will QF include in the F+ experience?

Oh thats simple - I price tag I will never be able to afford even on a half decent 6 figure salary!



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And I bet there is still only one diet soft drink and lots of different types of full sugar soft drinks, heaps of alcohol etc.
 
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I'm very curious about the context of this article and the Bloomberg interview, and whether or not AJ meant what he said or if he's been misquoted.


I'm all for QF improving their premium product, whether it's mainline or through Qantasia - but while Qantasia has been described as a 'premium' airline, I would have assumed that was to distinguish it against 3K or JQ which are obviously not that (and what everyone feared Qantasia probably would be).


I can understand the baiting comparison with MH and SQ, and talking up the competitiveness of the product - but for short to medium haul Asian regional flights (which is what Qantasia will presumably be flying), their premium product is quite modest (though SQ's is pretty effective). What confuses me is the quote about a 'private jet feel' - there's no way they'll be cramming suites onto a narrow-body A320, so the only scenario I could imagine is to completely tart up the premium cabin and minimise the seating in it (after all, a private jet doesn't exactly cram them in). In turn, that would be incredibly cost-ineffective which is the very purpose QF is supposedly making this investment in the first place.


So colour me very confused by the original statements and the bizarre inferences of this article.
 
I travel J with QF and SQ (depending on destination). I prefer QF for "Australianness and better wine" . This however could change which would swing me more behind SQ (ruthlessly efficient but robotic staff).
 
Probably won't know the destinations or base for another couple of months, however with a fleet of 11 x A320's costing the same as 2 x A380's obviously they can service more destinations & could do a higher frequency with a narrowbody.

If QFi is losing $200M each year they've obviously got to look at other ways of making money otherwise you have the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over again & expecting different results.

Having a premium airline would enable them to 'feed' traffic into existing core routes as in through check.
 
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A bit mystified on how they are going to put the suites as in the picture in the article in a narrow body aircraft :shock:
 
The numbers I do swallow are that employee costs for QFi are higher (in many instances) than the costs incurred in other countries. However they slice and dice the overall figures that wont change unless the employee cost base is changed or moved.
 
At least his reduction in base will help QFi then - or didn't you read that part of the article?
 
The numbers I do swallow are that employee costs for QFi are higher (in many instances) than the costs incurred in other countries. However they slice and dice the overall figures that wont change unless the employee cost base is changed or moved.

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Including the pay packet for QF's CEO no doubt...

Senior Management at QF whilst acknowledging their execs are well paid, were still quick to point out that AJ's salary was still in the bottom 10% of Australia's top 50 companies. His long service leave also kicked in which would've given the unions ammunition about him being paid 'more'.
 
Senior Management at QF whilst acknowledging their execs are well paid, were still quick to point out that AJ's salary was still in the bottom 10% of Australia's top 50 companies. His long service leave also kicked in which would've given the unions ammunition about him being paid 'more'.

As i said in another post, the execs salaries are nearly always compared to Australian, US and European counterparts, the workers tend to be compared to the Phillipines, Malaysia and Vietnam...

When they start comparing apples and apples, and walking their own talk I'll take more notice... And if they made up the reductions in base conditions to the employees by giving them shares or increasing remuneration/bonuses in other ways (as AJ has managed) they might not be so unhappy either??? Why not try to incentivise the employees as well, while recognising that the fixed costs of living vs disposable income ratio families and employees face are just a tad higher down the lower end of the rung compared to the $5 million pa club...
 
A bit mystified on how they are going to put the suites as in the picture in the article in a narrow body aircraft :shock:
Good question ozmille, they will doubtless be relying on the hallucinogenic powers of vintage Krug to fool the poor F passengers ;)
 
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