QF A380 Schedule Announced

[milehighclub]

The crew rest hatch in the cabin is for emergency use only.

The 747 also has an emergency escape hatch from over the toilets. If your standing below it's gonna hurt when the ceiling drops on your head.

The 4 seats at the back of the upper deck are crew rest facilities also as crew have to have access to both seats as well horizontal rest (bunks)

 

[docjames]

Its because the lav in front of 16JK is a handicap facility and hence larger than the standard lav in front of 16AB. It would then be deemed better to have the extra space at the emergency exit door where it could assist lots of people in the case of an evacuation, rather than some extra space in front of 16AB where it only benefits 2 people.

Without sounding harsh (because it's not intended that way), why would the "disabled" toilet be on the upper level (and thus mean "disabled" passengers would need to climb or be assisted up a flight of stairs to their seating?) as i understand boarding is via lower floor then up stairs (as per 747). Seems weird to me.

 

[NM]

Without sounding harsh (because it's not intended that way), why would the "disabled" toilet be on the upper level (and thus mean "disabled" passengers would need to climb or be assisted up a flight of stairs to their seating?) as i understand boarding is via lower floor then up stairs (as per 747). Seems weird to me.

It is anticipated that boarding on the A380 will be vis both lower and upper decks. True A380 capable gates should be able to offer dual bridges, one to each deck. However, at some gates it will likely be as you suggest with dual bridges to the lower deck.

I have seen QF load wheelchair passengers via right side doors using specially fitted fork lifts, though the upper deck of an A380 may be a little hight for that! Mrs NM's grandmother was loaded onto a flight that way once.

As all J seating is on the upper deck, we have to assume that some passengers travelling in J may require disabled lav facilities from time to time.

 

[oz_mark]

Without sounding harsh (because it's not intended that way), why would the "disabled" toilet be on the upper level (and thus mean "disabled" passengers would need to climb or be assisted up a flight of stairs to their seating?) as i understand boarding is via lower floor then up stairs (as per 747). Seems weird to me.

There would be a handicap facility on bth decks.

 

[jpk]

Looking at that seatmap, the 380 doesn't have as many toilets as I expected. Similar comments have been made about the SQ layout as well. I did some calculations, ignoring F as that hasn't changed.

744 config:
24J upper deck - 3 toilets - 8 pax per toilet
28J lower deck - 2 toilets - 14per
32PY - 0 toilets (shared with Y)
242Y - 8 toilets (shared with PY) - 34per inc PY

[380 config:
72J upper deck - 4 toilets - 18per
32PY upper deck - 2 toilets - 16per
332Y - 8 toilets - 41per

Its probable some of those in the rear J seats will use the PY toilets at the back. But I wonder if Y passengers from downstairs are going to be able to freely go upstairs and use them too, or if there will be a sign. Either way, unless I have miscounted, the toilet ratio is lower, and right now the queues (sometimes even in J) can be lengthy.

 

[milehighclub]

The upper deck on the 747 only has 2 toilets for passenger use. The 3rd is for exclusive use by the pilots and is on the other side of the flight deck door.

With that taken into account the ratio is 12 passengers per toilet on the upper deck, not 8.

Also don't forget about the pacific configured aircraft (42J on main deck) which has a ratio of 21 passengers per toilet.

Since passengers from either deck will go up or down if the toilets are busy the overall ratio is better on the 747 than the A380

On the A380 economy passengers cannot use the premium economy toilets.

 

[serfty]

Hmmm, there are some quite interesting WHY seats with leg room.

Standard exit row 66 B/C/H/J, also 66A/K do not appear to have a cowling issue.

Also exit row 79 B/C/H/J, there's no 79A/K so 80 A/K should have additional leg room.

... and the mentioned 71D.[EDIT: Kyeobrad Dsyxelia]

 

[NM]

... and the mentioned 17D.

Looks like a standard J aisle to me - just no seat to sit on .

I think I would prefer 17E myself.

 

[DTM1]

The upper deck on the 747 only has 2 toilets for passenger use. The 3rd is for exclusive use by the pilots and is on the other side of the flight deck door.

I'm not sure that you're right. That is definitely the case on BA, but from my recollection (it's been a few mths), the front toilet on QF 744s is still available for pax and is before the coughpit door.

 

[straitman]

The upper deck on the 747 only has 2 toilets for passenger use. The 3rd is for exclusive use by the pilots and is on the other side of the flight deck door.

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I'm not sure that you're right. That is definitely the case on BA, but from my recollection (it's been a few mths), the front toilet on QF 744s is still available for pax and is before the coughpit door.

There is one toilet at the front and one at the back of the upper deck for passenger use. I'm not sure if there is another forward of the coughpit door. It's definitely possible though as there is a bunk there.

 

[NM]

I'm not sure that you're right. That is definitely the case on BA, but from my recollection (it's been a few mths), the front toilet on QF 744s is still available for pax and is before the coughpit door.

milehighclub is correct (and shouid know ). There are 3 toilets on the upper deck of QF 747-400s'. One is at the rear of the cabin behind the coat locker, and two at the front. The most forward of the two at the front is inside the coughpit area, while the other is behind a curtain but on the passenger side of the coughpit door.

 

[Harpoon]

Since Qantas has ordered 20 A380's, are they building (or already built) bigger maintenance facilities? Or do they fit into the same facilities as the 744s in Sydney?

 

[straitman]

Since Qantas has ordered 20 A380's, are they building (or already built) bigger maintenance facilities? Or do they fit into the same facilities as the 744s in Sydney?

What :!: Do you mean that they need maintenance :?:

QF could always do what SQ does and sells off their aircraft before they need major maintenance.

 

[Mal]

Since Qantas has ordered 20 A380's, are they building (or already built) bigger maintenance facilities? Or do they fit into the same facilities as the 744s in Sydney?

I doubt there will be very many LAME's employed directly by Qantas by the time the A380 arrives with the stupid stunts they're playing. Perhaps they intend for all major maintenance to go overseas, with only some small tasks occurring in Australia and not requiring specialist facilities.

 

[Evan]

Gut feeling is that maybe the heavy A380 maintinance will mostly end up in Singapore. I seem to remember reading something about some shareing of resources for this.
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[dot]

Gut feeling is that maybe the heavy A380 maintinance will mostly end up in Singapore. I seem to remember reading something about some sharing of resources for this.
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Singapore is the obvious choice currently given Airbus positioned a remote warehouse for A380 parts at Singapore.

 

[jpk]

I vaguely remember reading that heavy maintenance would be done in SIN either by SIA Engineering, or Lufthansa Technical Services. I am probably wrong tho...

 

[pauly7]

I vaguely remember reading that heavy maintenance would be done in SIN either by SIA Engineering, or Lufthansa Technical Services. I am probably wrong tho...

No you are right, although I can't source it I'm sure SIA were doing the A30 for QF...

 

[Febs]

QF could always do what SQ does and sells off their aircraft before they need major maintenance.

Or QF could sell all the parts they need for maintenance, then find they can't order them in when they actually need them.

Nah, that'd never happen... :shock:

 

[jpk]

Or QF could sell all the parts they need for maintenance, then find they can't order them in when they actually need them.

Nah, that'd never happen... :shock:

Or... get rid of the experienced engineers who are able to quickly make up components when required. No wait, they did that already.