Qantas SYD&MEL to SIN $510 ret ($410 through .br site)

[Temporiser]

.BR wont process my MC for some reason, called Comm Bank and they said it was expedia. What cards are you guys using?

I tried Qantas Staff Credit union Visa first, but it rejected, then I used my Macquaire Visa card and all went through OK. Then received a call from QSCU, asking if I had tried to transact in Brazil? I said I had tried, however, the QSCU card did not work. They ask if I want the transaction to go ahead and I said no, as I had already paid will my Macquaire Visa.

 

[dzinh]

grrrr still won't accept it, im limited to AMEX and MC. :evil:

 

[Must...Fly!]

Do it during business hours and have the bank on the phone or pre-warn them you are going to do a charge for ~$xx_ in Brazil.

 

[shellthom]

are these flights cheap because of the sale or are they always just cheaper? I did a search and got the same price for a period which qantas is excluding from their sale (I am guessing it is our school holidays but I haven't checked the dates to confirm).
I didn't check expedia.com.br while the qantas sales weren't on did anybody else? Did the pricing go up/drop in correlation with Qantas.com.au sales??

 

[Stoopidsteve]

are these flights cheap because of the sale or are they always just cheaper? ...
I didn't check expedia.com.br while the qantas sales weren't on did anybody else? Did the pricing go up/drop in correlation with Qantas.com.au sales??

Not sure, but will check when the global sale ends in a couple of days. I just booked a UK May trip.
Using Bankwest Mcard, no problems. Appeared in FF account for seat selection within seconds.

I should have copied all the fare rules, but I noticed one was "Not for sale in Australia"......

 

[anat0l]

I should have copied all the fare rules, but I noticed one was "Not for sale in Australia"......

Where did you find the fare rules? Was it in the expedia.com.br site, which means I've missed something as I've gone through the booking process (got no bookings yet, but I've done a couple of dummy bookings just before the confirmation of purchase).

I wonder what is meant by "no sale in Australia", viz. you booked the fare on a website in Brazil, so it's a sale in Brazil, but you bought it whilst in Australia, with an Australian billing address. What are the ramifications of "breaking" that rule, as it were?

I hope it doesn't mean that the ticket is automatically void, but further to that if remedy is required then one would have to go to Brazil to instigate legal action...

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Where did you find the fare rules? Was it in the expedia.com.br site, which means I've missed something as I've gone through the booking process (got no bookings yet, but I've done a couple of dummy bookings just before the confirmation of purchase).

I wonder what is meant by "no sale in Australia", viz. you booked the fare on a website in Brazil, so it's a sale in Brazil, but you bought it whilst in Australia, with an Australian billing address. What are the ramifications of "breaking" that rule, as it were?

I hope it doesn't mean that the ticket is automatically void, but further to that if remedy is required then one would have to go to Brazil to instigate legal action...

It's not been sold in Australia, it's been sold in Brazil. I know what you mean but expedia's 'point of sale' is Brazil so even if you ordered it from Australia that is not where the sale occurred.

 

[shellthom]

And if you were holidaying in brazil at the time you bought it wouldn't your card and billing address be australian anyway?

 

[Must...Fly!]

Where did you find the fare rules? Was it in the expedia.com.br site, which means I've missed something as I've gone through the booking process (got no bookings yet, but I've done a couple of dummy bookings just before the confirmation of purchase).

I wonder what is meant by "no sale in Australia", viz. you booked the fare on a website in Brazil, so it's a sale in Brazil, but you bought it whilst in Australia, with an Australian billing address. What are the ramifications of "breaking" that rule, as it were?

I hope it doesn't mean that the ticket is automatically void, but further to that if remedy is required then one would have to go to Brazil to instigate legal action...

Absolutely no rule being broken.

As has been mentioned before by not only myself and others, many have booked and flown the fares on Ireland & Germany Expedia sites with absolutely no problems, including myself.

It is an airline ticket like any other - except it is purchased overseas, from an overseas agent. It is NOT being sold by an agent in Australia - it is being sold by an agent in Brazil. There is no breaking of the rule. At all. I'm quite sure if they were able to discriminate against residents of a certain country buying a ticket in another country that would violate all sorts of trade practices and laws.

If you wish to see the fare rules, click through to the CC page of Expedia.br where it will link to the fare rules. Alternatively, visit Matrix - ITA Software and find the fare rules there.

Assuming there is no mistake on these specific South American fares (given the fares have disappeared and reappeared a number of times, on different sales, this is EXTREMELY unlikely or impossible) then it is no different to purchasing a ticket from www.qantas.com.au, except for the inconvenience of having to contact Expedia to make any change.

 

[ProggerPete]

Snagged a return for R$860,57. So around $410 + whatever fees my Macquarie Platinum card hits me with.

 

[JohnK]

Is someone able to explain why fuel surcharge is not included on Brazilian expedia site for QF SYD-SIN flights making them ~$200 cheaper but when trying to book QF SIN-SYD the airfare is almost double to that of the one on the QF website?

 

[oz_mark]

Is someone able to explain why fuel surcharge is not included on Brazilian expedia site for QF SYD-SIN flights making them ~$200 cheaper but when trying to book QF SIN-SYD the airfare is almost double to that of the one on the QF website?

Example dates?

I suspect for 'normal' fares they have adjusted their base fares for that point of sale. I had a look at some dates (not for Sydney) and they came out close together.

 

[JohnK]

SIN-SYD 20 July on QF6 and SYD-SIN 29 September on QF5

QF SIN website = S$770 (~AUD596)
Expedia Brazil website = R$2241 (~AUD929)

OK, not quite double but the difference is fairly significant. So if they are not charging fuel surcharge on all airfares then there is something wrong here or there is a mistake in the ex-Aus airfares.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

SIN-SYD 20 July on QF6 and SYD-SIN 29 September on QF5

QF SIN website = S$770 (~AUD596)
Expedia Brazil website = R$2241 (~AUD929)

OK, not quite double but the difference is fairly significant. So if they are not charging fuel surcharge on all airfares then there is something wrong here or there is a mistake in the ex-Aus airfares.

The fares could be wildly different with Brazil as a point of sale for SIN-Australia compared to Qantas Singapore website which is using Singapore as a point of sale. point of sale can change fares very dramatically.

 

[JohnK]

The fares could be wildly different with Brazil as a point of sale for SIN-Australia compared to Qantas Singapore website which is using Singapore as a point of sale. point of sale can change fares very dramatically.

That is OK and I understand that.

One cannot simply make a statement that the airfares using Expedia Brazil exclude fuel surcharges but only for flights ex-Aus not ex-Singapore.

 

[oz_mark]

That is OK and I understand that.

One cannot simply make a statement that the airfares using Expedia Brazil exclude fuel surcharges but only for flights ex-Aus not ex-Singapore.

Yes one can.

 

[JohnK]

Yes one can.

That is not very helpful.

 

[oz_mark]

That is not very helpful.

No worries. Any time I reply to your posts in future I will include 37 pages of footnotes!

Now if I could just work out what fare class Expedia Brazil are selling on 20 July....

 

[Aussie_flyer]

That is OK and I understand that.

One cannot simply make a statement that the airfares using Expedia Brazil exclude fuel surcharges but only for flights ex-Aus not ex-Singapore.

The BASE fares on offer for sale in brazil ex-Singapore on QF may be completely different to the fares on offer for sale in Singapore on the Qantas site. Why do you believe they include a fuel surcharge? The taxes show the same

 

[Stoopidsteve]

Now if I could just work out what fare class Expedia Brazil are selling on 20 July....

dunno about July, but my bookings from that source for BNE-MEL-LHR-DXB-BNE trip mid-May is O, and BNE-SYD-SIN-BNE end May is N. (It does tell you before booking).