Thankfully I switched to BAEC recently.
We flew with MH a bit pre Covid and hoping to resume that soon but the earn to/from Australia is a disgrace so was one of my main reasons for swapping over
Thankfully I switched to BAEC recently.
Does anyone have knowledge of the financial side of how SC's work between airlines?
With points, my understanding is that the marketing OW carrier (MH) pays QF the agreed value of the points, when a QFF member travels on their MH plane, the idea being that this passenger chose MH because of the alliance and points. It's akin to a commission or "cost of sale" for attracting that customer to MH. So it's mainly the partner carrier who determines how much to pay depending on their assessment of the value of this incremental revenue, and thus how many QFF points in the end are awarded. Routes that are directly competing with QF routes have an additional factor, generally lowering the points earn on the parnter, but I'm not sure how that works.
Is this basically the same with SC's? Qantas is awarding SC's roughly based on how much they get paid by MH for providing them this passenger? I know that SC's are a bit harder to put a dollar value on compared to points, but there much be some similar calculus done here?
You could always go Au - SIN with QF, then take no J class 3K from SIN - KUL for cheap cheap.
Qantas has been supporting Malaysia Airlines through its alliance implementation project, as its oneworld sponsor airline, with backing from the central oneworld team.
Qantas Chief Executive Alan Joyce added: “Qantas has been delighted to support Malaysia Airlines throughout its oneworld joining process, and we are very pleased now to be able to welcome another great airline on board the world’s premier global airline alliance.”
Before August, each segment between SIN KUL on MH in I class should earnIt looks like they are not even honouring my business class tickets from Singapore to Kuala Lumpur return taken in June 2022 as they claim it’s not eligible to earn. But it’s class “I”. Do I have grounds to get a review again?
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I doubt it to be honest.I wonder if it's any coincidence that the reduction in SCs on cheaper intra-Asia J fares is happening at the same time as MH is removing a row of J seats from its 737-800 fleet. Maybe they want to sell fewer lower-yielding J fares going forward?
Malaysia Airlines has unveiled new seats and a refreshed cabin interior for its Boeing 737-800 fleet. The first refurbished aircraft will enter service this month and over time a total of 38 aircraft will be progressively refurbished. A key change is new, "leaner" seats. MH is also removing a...www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au
I doubt it to be honest.
MH controls the inventory of course so obviously that will put the squeeze on Discount J inventory to sell for them, but that's a yield management concern. I doubt they know or could give a satay about mileage earning rates on one or more partners (specially if the lower SC earn is a QF decision rather than a MH one).
I reckon a fair coincidence tbh (also considering it will take time to refit the MH 737 fleet too).
always possible. I still don't see the two being connected though. I mean if the intent was to curb demand for cheaper seats being sold they do that with inventory controls. It seems an odd thing to try to target demand by meas of FF earn.FWIW, I've been told MH may have instigated this change and not QF. (I haven't been able to verify this, though, and ultimately QF can decide how many status credits to award etc.)
That's what I had assumed but TTR's comment seems to indicate otherwise.