Qantas cutting QF 19 and 20 - Manila?

Discussion in 'Qantas Frequent Flyer Program' started by browski, Nov 2, 2006.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Welcome to Australia's leading independent Frequent Flyer and Travel Resource!
Our site contains tons of information that will improve your travel experience.
Joining AFF is fast, simple & ABSOLUTELY FREE -  join now by clicking on the JOIN NOW button, and take immediate advantage of these great BENEFITS.
Once registered, this box will disappear. And you will see fewer advertisements :)
  1. browski

    browski Established Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    1,490
    416
    Melbourne
    Now that the excellent, award winning, passenger friendly Jetstar is flying to the Philippines via Singapore, I fear for the future of the Qantas service to Manila.

    Maybe Qantas are already grooming their J passengers. The Qantas muesli and danish breakfasts will certainly make Deathstar easy to switch to.
     

  2. Wunala Dreaming

    Mar 14, 2006
    349
    40
    Brisbane
    Effective Monday 11 DEC 2006, Australian Airlines crew will begin operating flights from SYD/BNE-MNL.

    JQ from Australia-Manila is one of those rumours that has been around for sometime, but nothing has yet materialised.

    Shame the 747-300 isn't flying the route anymore - but that's another story in itself.

    Cheers
     
  3. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

    Mar 22, 2005
    40,179
    8,696
    BNE, SYD and CNX
    I guess you are really saying the only realistic alternative will be flying CX to the Philippines via Hong Kong.
     
  4. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    5,453
    4
    Or SQ via SIN or TG via BKK.
     
  5. wantok

    wantok Junior Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    24
    0
    Auckland, NZ
    So this leg is now downgraded further :(

    Forgive my ignorance but I thought Australian Airlines was dead and buried, and what does this mean in terms of SC and service (or lack thereof) :oops:
     
  6. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    5,453
    4
    Nothing for the pax. Just the crew are being paid less.
     
  7. Standby

    Standby Active Member

    May 25, 2006
    616
    55
    If the service is operating with old AO crew that simply means it will be a QF 767-300 fitted with old dreamtime seats and no different to the current service. The last time i trevlled to MNL on a 747 was a number of years ago and to say it was lightly loaded was an understatment.The 767 seems a better fit for the current demand,although MNL seems to fit the jetstar MO..ie a market that isnt high yield and presumably not a big money earner
     
  8. wantok

    wantok Junior Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    24
    0
    Auckland, NZ
    Paying the staff less will no doubt make them happy then:rolleyes:

    Last time I did that run the QF staff were cr*p anyway, so it will be interesting to see the difference.

    Cheers
     
  9. NM

    NM
    Moderator

    Aug 27, 2004
    15,764
    1,214
    Flight Map:
    View my flight map
    They no longer fly their own routes under the AO flight number and branding. They remain as an operating entity similar to Jet Connect, operating flights for Qantas under the Qantas branding. It seems to be a way of retaining the AO staff under their current employment contracts without having to move them into direct QF employment.
     
  10. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    5,453
    4
    Well it is different staff - not as highly paid ones. Sorry for the confusion.
     
  11. serfty

    Moderator

    Nov 16, 2004
    39,257
    7,780
    MEL
    Flight Map:
    View my flight map
    It goes back to the days of the old QF/AN duoply where the financial "cake" was quite large and the parties involved (Company, Pilots, FA's Ground crew etc.) ensured they all had reasonably big slices of it.

    Interestingly enough, AO staff have a reputation for generally providing a far more attentive and better in flight service that their QF conterparts.
     
  12. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    5,453
    4
    same applies for jet connect
     
  13. dajop

    dajop Senior Member

    Jul 1, 2002
    8,676
    1,762
    SIN
    Flight Map:
    View my flight map
    Or PR who do the MNL-MEL-SYD-MNL triangle (although is PR a realistic alternative??)

    If you're not going from SYD, eg from MEL, SQ & CX are fairly close in terms of time for getting to MNL and, well you get to spend your time in either SIN or HKG rather than wasting it catching the b*s in SYD .... and I would take either in preference to the QF flight (which I have done once in J, not impressed).
     
  14. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

    Mar 22, 2005
    40,179
    8,696
    BNE, SYD and CNX
    I was referring to realistic OneWorld alternatives, unless Qantas downgrades most routes.
     
  15. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    5,453
    4
    The only OW airlines flying to Manila are QF and CX. But they are hardly the only (or even the best) choices.
     
  16. pauly7

    pauly7 Established Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    4,108
    788

    Actually the AO staff are some of the best I have encountered in my travels. I think its a great move!
     
  17. wantok

    wantok Junior Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    24
    0
    Auckland, NZ
    Thanks for that, makes me happier it may be a more enjoyable bus trip than last time, mind, I must have just got a crew on a particularly bad day, they were probably the most sour I have come across.
     
  18. aus_flyer

    aus_flyer Established Member

    Feb 15, 2005
    1,361
    25
    Brisbane
    That wouldn't be hard. Well trained monkeys could do better than some of the QF boilers.

    (or should that be poorly trained monkeys...?)
     
  19. serfty

    Moderator

    Nov 16, 2004
    39,257
    7,780
    MEL
    Flight Map:
    View my flight map
    #19 serfty, Nov 5, 2006
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2006
    Actually it would be better to quote "Well Trained/Experienced professionals".

    There was a large pool of experienced people available in OZ when AO started up (remember Ansett) and they were able to snaffle some of the best. I'm sure the selection criteria used did not extend to "... Boilers" of any type. ;)
     
  20. oz_mark

    oz_mark Enthusiast

    Jun 30, 2002
    17,383
    1,624
    Melbourne
    Flight Map:
    View my flight map
    ...and I am also certain that they did not use DJ's selction criteria either :shock:
     
Loading...

Share This Page