QANTAS Business Lounge access

[gwil257]

I'm a Qantas FF Bronze member (not qantas club) and have booked return flights to Melbourne in Business class with points + pay. Am I eligible to enter the qantas club, while not being a QC member?

 

[Austman]

Yes! Enjoy it! You even have access to the Business lounges too (where they exist).

 

[smithy]

yes, enjoy...

 

[Austman]

... and you are allowed 1 guest too (who must also be flying with Qantas).

 

[Stephen65]

Not only the QP but also (in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra and Brisbane) you can access the inner sanctum of the QP, otherwise known as the domestic J class lounge. It has marginally better facilities and offerings than the regular QP but is usually a lot less crowded. Just flash your J class boarding pass at the dragon checkpoints.

 

[gwil257]

Not only the QP but also (in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra and Brisbane) you can access the inner sanctum of the QP, otherwise known as the domestic J class lounge. It has marginally better facilities and offerings than the regular QP but is usually a lot less crowded. Just flash your J class boarding pass at the dragon checkpoints.

Thanks all. Thats good as I am going CNS-SYD-MEL return. Last time I flew this I only went economy. Was bored walking around the airports. At least now I can relax and have a drink, etc.

 

[Ewing]

... and you are allowed 1 guest too (who must also be flying with Qantas).

Hmm, when did they sneak that enhancement in?

I seem to recall that the rules used say that one guest was permitted with no stipulation that the guest be travelling on Qantas also.

 

[mannej]

Hmm, when did they sneak that enhancement in?

I seem to recall that the rules used say that one guest was permitted with no stipulation that the guest be travelling on Qantas also.

Entry into the QP/J-Lounge on a J Ticket does stipulate that the guest must be flying Qantas that day. Some ports will let you sneak a guest in but it is all very hit and miss.

 

[sambo517]

I'm a Qantas FF Bronze member (not qantas club) and have booked return flights to Melbourne in Business class with points + pay. Am I eligible to enter the qantas club, while not being a QC member?

You are flying business,in one word........"YES"....
Oh more words,enjoy the Business lounge whilst you're in the QC, I do !!!

 

[Danger]

I know it's been discussed extensively but I can't find the thread: does oneworld Sapphire in a program other than QF (in particular, AA Platinum) include entitlement to access QF domestic Business lounges?

 

[nlagalle]

I know it's been discussed extensively but I can't find the thread: does oneworld Sapphire in a program other than QF (in particular, AA Platinum) include entitlement to access QF domestic Business lounges?

No it doesn't. You must be OWE to enter the domestic J lounge.

 

[Robert K]

I know it's been discussed extensively but I can't find the thread: does oneworld Sapphire in a program other than QF (in particular, AA Platinum) include entitlement to access QF domestic Business lounges?

OW Sapphire does not have access to domestic J Lounge
Eligibility and Access to The Qantas Club lounges

 

[sambo517]

I know it's been discussed extensively but I can't find the thread: does oneworld Sapphire in a program other than QF (in particular, AA Platinum) include entitlement to access QF domestic Business lounges?

Entry into Domestic " J " Lounge ? Not with OW Sapphire, unless you are ticketed to fly in business on the day...

Cheers & Beers

 

[simongr]

No it doesn't. You must be OWE to enter the domestic J lounge.

OW Sapphire does not have access to domestic J Lounge
Eligibility and Access to The Qantas Club lounges

Entry into Domestic " J " Lounge ? Not with OW Sapphire, unless you are ticketed to fly in business on the day...

Cheers & Beers

So just for the avoidance of doubt non-QF OWS do not circumvent the rules preventing OWS from entering the J lounge unless flying J.

 

[Danger]

Thank you all.

This section of the oneworld website had me confused:

Exceptions
2. Qantas Frequent Flyer Programme: Qantas Frequent Flyer Gold members may not use the Qantas Domestic Business Class Lounges.

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oneworld - Lounge Access

 

[oz_mark]

You need to also read this other exception (which is elsewhere on the page :shock

*Lounge access by tier status does not apply to Qantas Domestic Business Class Lounges.

oneworld - Lounge Access

 

[Danger]

Thanks for the clarifications.

 

[NM]

The difference is that Qantas refer to the special domesitc lounge as the "Qantas Domestic Business Lounge". Note there is no word "Class" between Business and Lounge. Its not a "Business Class Lounge", otherwise they would need to allow OneWorld Sapphire access. Its called the "Domestic Business Lounge", so Qantas can make its own rules regarding access.

So while Qanats welcome their domestic Business Class passengers access to the Qantas Business Lounge, their still differentiate by not using the word "Class" in the name of the lounge.

Qantas Domestic Business Lounges

Qantas marketing and published information about the Business Lounge is very specific and consistent in the use of the lounge name.

 

[tuapekastar]

The difference is that Qantas refer to the special domesitc lounge as the "Qantas Domestic Business Lounge". Note there is no word "Class" between Business and Lounge. Its not a "Business Class Lounge", otherwise they would need to allow OneWorld Sapphire access. Its called the "Domestic Business Lounge", so Qantas can make its own rules regarding access.

So while Qanats welcome their domestic Business Class passengers access to the Qantas Business Lounge, their still differentiate by not using the word "Class" in the name of the lounge.

Qantas Domestic Business Lounges

Qantas marketing and published information about the Business Lounge is very specific and consistent in the use of the lounge name.

And prior to the creation of the J lounges by QF a few years ago, the Qantas Clubs were the 'business lounges', and IMHO still are 'business lounges', at least for the purpose of OW agreements. They have not changed significantly. I do think QF could have saved some confusion and possible embarrassing entry refusals by calling the J lounges something completely different (Galleries, anyone ), but c'est la vie, they didn't.

 

[NM]

And prior to the creation of the J lounges by QF a few years ago, the Qantas Clubs were the 'business lounges', and IMHO still are 'business lounges', at least for the purpose of OW agreements. They have not changed significantly. I do think QF could have saved some confusion and possible embarrassing entry refusals by calling the J lounges something completely different (Galleries, anyone ), but c'est la vie, they didn't.

But there is the problem! We, the members of AFF and similar groups, continue to call the Qantas Business Lounge the "J Lounge". Its not a J lounge. J implies Business Class, and the lounge name does not include the word Class. Yes, they permit J (Business Class passengers) to use the Qantas Business Lounge, but that does not make it a J (Business Class) lounge. We really should stop refering to the Qantas Business Lounge as theQantas J Lounge. Its not a J lounge at all for Qantas' second tier of most valued passenger, which includes Business Class passengers as well as Emerald Frequent Flyers.

It may have been better if they chose a name that did not bring confusion with the "Class" part. Perhaps they should call it the "Qantas Premium Lounge", or maybe "Qantas Flight Deck Lounge" or "Qantas Captains Lounge" if they still have trademark rights to those previous lounge names. Or just choose a random bame like "Galleries", "Kookabura" or "Dundee" lounge to remove the confusion.