Punctuality info on expertflyer

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  1. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    How spot on is expertflyer in determining the punctuality of flights?

    I'm trying to change from BA12 SIN-LHR to QF9 SIN-LHR. Having flown QF9 quite a few times I've usually arrived in LHR very punctually. But EF says that QF9 is late 25% of the time with the average delay being 72 mins :)shock:!), whilst BA12 only has a 5% chance of being late with an average delay of 8 mins.

    I'm trying to fit in a day trip to Nottingham before flying off to DXB, so the more logical choice seems to be BA12.

    But can someone advise me on whether I should trust the EF stats?
     

  2. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    Just noticed that flightstats have the same stats...hmmm
     
  3. alect

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    I use Flight Stats all the time and it seems pretty accurate - as accurate as any source I have seen.
     
  4. alect

    alect Member

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    EF actually partners with FlightStats for the info - so it's the same info sourced by FlightStats
     
  5. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    Sounds like I should stick to BA12 then. Knowing my kind of luck I'd probably end up on QF9 when it's part of the 25% of late arrivals for that flight when I do have to arrive on time.
     
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  7. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    Hmm... so if QF009 (with ETA of 0525) is 72 mins late into LHR, can I still make it to Nottingham by lunchtime (say 12 or 1 in the arvo)? I'd be catching the train. There are many reasons why I'd prefer to fly QF009 over BA12, amongst them being that QF009 is my handle. ;)

    Or should I just be safe and stick to BA12?
     
  8. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    Why not just be safe and stick with the one that's most reliable. Why make things more difficult than they have to be

    Dave
     
  9. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    True that... :oops:
     
  10. simongr

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    Have you checked the likelihood of NNCW/NGCW on the BA12 route? That would be a factor for me.

    @Dave - C'mon - this is AFF and QF009 is worse than me for being a flying junky
     
  11. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    Still no reason to make things harder/ have more risks of problems especially when there is a desire/need to be at a location by a specific time.

    Getting to the destination is the core point of the journey and taking unnecessary extra risks is a flawed idea imo

    Dave
     
  12. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    #12 Keith009, Aug 22, 2007
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    Even with NGCW I prefer QF J. I've realised that I can't sleep much on planes even with completely flat beds unless severely sleep deprieved, so the soft product does in a way matters. Plus BA's cabins are far too hot for me to get much sleep anyway - I always wake up in sweat. Gross. :oops:

    I think I'll try to be sensible on the timing issue and go for BA12 though. ;)

    Hmm and how on earth am I worse than you given that most of the stops in my DONE4 are for a reason other than MRs, unlike your BEHEMOTH? :p
     
  13. simongr

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    Why are you flying to DXB again?
     
  14. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    Because I'm actually visiting DXB. ;) [yes spending more than 48 hrs there]

    Ok I'm going there via SIN and LHR...
    Operative word = "most" ;)
     
  15. jpk

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    you'd be better off asking this on the FT BA forum. if you are in F/J then you get fastrack immigration, which should help but is really just a longer wait for bags. HEX into paddington, then tube or cab over to st pancras. train from there is around 2 hours. so yeah, in theory very do-able.

    it would probably help if you don't have much baggage.

    hth,
    jk.
     
  16. Keith009

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  17. jpk

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    just to put some rough timings on this -
    - land ~630 (if late)
    - immigration + bags ~730 - 800 (worst time of the day to land)
    - heathrow express to paddington ~830
    - district/circle line tube to st pancras ~900
    - train to nottingham goes every 30 mins, takes 2 hours ~1130-1200

    i think you will be fine. if you book your train ticket at least 24 hours previous it will be a LOT cheaper than a walkup fare.

    the downside is it will take you that 3 hours+ to get back to LHR again, so you will not have much time out there. a better plan would be to get your friends/family to come meet you in london, that way you will have more time together, and less things to go wrong.
     
  18. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

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    Yep flying in J so I'll get fast track. No bags - it's a long transit b4 heading to DXB that evening (dep for DXB at 2140). Friend has work which is why I'm the one heading over to Nottingham for lunch. Aren't I nice? ;)

    Cheers for the tip about the train ticket. :)
     
  19. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    I would avoid the pre-booked advanced tickets for this trip since they tie you a specific train. I would suggest just getting a saver ticket which will be valid on non-peak services but is not restricted to a specific train. If you book the v cheap tickets then you are v restricted

    Dave
     
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