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Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

BrianaE

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It will be interesting to see what the government decides on the priority order.

I know plenty of Australians that aren't too keen on getting the covid vaccination whereas they would for other things. Lots of people still refuse to get the flu vaccination. I know at first there will be shortages but I wonder how long that will last.

Ive got my fingers crossed if a vaccine is available by the start of the year that I can get it mid next year.
 

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So guess the question is.. who do they pick for subsequent doses after initial vaccinations in Jan. How is it decided who gets the jab first.

Hopefully it should be front-line workers, the vulnerable, those who live with or care for the vulnerable... then who knows? I suppose logistics will have a part to play... easier to distribute in big cities?
 

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Hopefully it should be front-line workers, the vulnerable, those who live with or care for the vulnerable... then who knows? I suppose logistics will have a part to play... easier to distribute in big cities?

I work in a company providing building services to aged care provides like Anglicare and I have to go in and out of villages regularly.

Does that mean I am in the priority list ? :p Might volunteer my company lol
 

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I work in a company providing building services to aged care provides like Anglicare and I have to go in and out of villages regularly.

Does that mean I am in the priority list ? :p Might volunteer my company lol
If you are thinking of family being able to internationally travel, you will have to wait for the rest of the family to be vaccinated......or not 😅
 

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Hopefully it should be front-line workers, the vulnerable, those who live with or care for the vulnerable... then who knows? I suppose logistics will have a part to play... easier to distribute in big cities?

I read somewhere recently the order for vaccinations would be:
1: Front Line workers - Health Care
2: Elderly / at risk i.e. nursing homes and aged care residents
3: Those caring for those at risk persons i.e 60 - 70 year old group
4: 50 - 60 year olds
5: The rest of the population

I work in a company providing building services to aged care provides like Anglicare and I have to go in and out of villages regularly.

Does that mean I am in the priority list ? :p Might volunteer my company lol

If you go into aged care facilities then there is a high possibility you would have to have it.
We have to provide a flu vaccination certificate each year to the facilities we do work in so it seems logical that a Corona Virus vaccination also be required.
 
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I read somewhere recently the order for vaccinations would be:
1: Front Line workers - Health Care
2: Elderly / at risk i.e. nursing homes and aged care residents
3: Those caring for those at risk persons i.e 60 - 70 year old group
4: 50 - 60 year olds
5: The rest of the population



If you go into aged care facilities then there is a high possibility you would have to have it.
We have to provide a flu vaccination certificate each year to the facilities we do work in so it seems logical that a Corona Virus vaccination also be required.

Keep in mind the first rounds of vaccines are highly unlikely to be anywhere near 100% effective, so they have also indicated for exampe that primary health care workers families would also get it as a priority alongside them.
 

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So it means by the end of the third quarter 2021 a maximum of 60% of the population could be vaccinated.
is that enough to reopen borders without quarantine?

I think the only to answer this is by seeing what the vaccines do in practice. By this I mean, once you have had a good amount of the population vaccinated, lets say 25%, what is the trend for new cases, active cases and deaths.

So in the UK, we are averaging about 20k cases a day and deaths are 200+ a day and moving up quickly. Let's assume those are the numbers the same the day people begin getting the vaccine. After 3 - 4 months, lets assume 25% of the UK population has gotten their two vaccine jabs, theoretically, new cases should begin to significantly reduce, as should active cases. Deaths are always a laggard and may take another month.

If we see the above happening, particularly in many countries, I think travel restart very shortly after.
 

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I thought it might be worth an insight to the vaccine trials that are happening here.

Kate Bingham - Head of the UK Vaccines Taskforce said:
I’m delighted this newsletter is coming to almost 300,000 of you who have now signed up to the NHS Covid-19 Vaccine Research Registry, helping support our search for a safe and effective vaccine against Covid-19.

Last week I joined the thousands of you who have recently been called upon to take part in a vaccine study. My fellow study participants will be familiar by now with what is involved in a Covid-19 vaccine study, but I wanted to share my own experience with you.

Like all of you, I want to play my part in helping researchers quickly get the results they need to determine whether any of the vaccine candidates we have secured access to in the UK are effective against coronavirus. After I received the email inviting me to join a phase 3 study for a new vaccine developed by US biotech company Novavax, I completed the additional online screening forms and then received an evening call from the study physician. I kept my fingers crossed that this would work out as I couldn’t wait to get started.

Phase 3 studies involve many thousands of people, giving researchers insights into the effects of a vaccine on a much larger population than phase 1 and 2 studies. This helps us understand more about a potential vaccine’s safety and the dosage needed to generate protective immunity. What these studies are aiming to do is gather large amounts of information about how a vaccine behaves in a large number of people. This helps researchers determine if a vaccine is safe and effective, particularly for those most affected by Covid-19 such as the elderly, ethnic minorities and adults with serious underlying health conditions. 15,000 people from across the UK will take part in the Novavax study that I am part of over the next 13 months at a number of regional sites including Blackpool, Bradford, London, Stockport, Glasgow and Belfast.

I was extremely impressed with the ‘Rolls-Royce’ treatment I was promised all trial volunteers receive when I went along to the Royal Free London NHS Foundation Trust for my first injection. Having completed a pre-screening a few days before, which covered my health history and personal information to make sure I was eligible to take part in the study, I cycled over to the hospital for my personal appointment with the clinical study team. I was given a thorough examination to record the state of my health at the start of the study and was given a swab test to check for Covid-19 symptoms before I received my first injection of either the vaccine or placebo. I won’t know until the end of the study which one I received. I felt very well looked after at every stage, which was clearly explained to me and all my questions were answered. I was sent away with an electronic symptom diary installed on my phone, which I’ll use to track how I feel on a daily basis. I also have a number to call a physician any time day or night should I have any complications or concerns during the study.

With more studies due to start over the coming weeks, many more of you will receive an invitation to take part and I do hope you will join me and people like Faisal Ali, another Novavax study volunteer based in Bradford. Faisal is keeping a video diary detailing his journey so far, which is being documented by BBC Asian Network. You can hear what he has to say about his experience so far over on their Facebook page.

I will be returning to the study centre in a couple of weeks for my next ‘dose’, which is the protocol for this particular vaccine. I then have a number of follow-up appointments throughout the study, which will help researchers monitor my progress and collect that all-important information they need.

Some stats on the trial sign-ups so far too.
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Up to date data can be found on the public dashboard including geographical breakdowns.
 

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WA has formally announced they will not be participating in the NZ travel bubble :rolleyes: and also have threatened the federal government that if they open more international border bubbles WA may return to a completely hard border with everyone.

So essentially blackmailing the rest of Australia into keeping all international borders shut until they feel ready.

Very clever (?) move... let’s see what response they get.

Will certainly put the brakes on everything now unfortunately.

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Mr McGowan also urged the federal government to take an extra cautious approach to the international border.

“If the commonwealth government moves to keep establishI further travel bubbles with other nations, we reserve our rights to do what is in the best interests of WA, including reinstating our hard border,” he said.

“I personally think the biggest threat to the country now is importation of the virus from overseas.”

 

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“If the commonwealth government moves to keep establishI further travel bubbles with other nations, we reserve our rights to do what is in the best interests of WA, including reinstating our hard border,” he said.

Dare I say the answer to that is probably ‘who cares?’

all the state border talks and pressures centre around nsw, vic and qld. I had no idea there were restrictions on wa for a long time.
 

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Dare I say the answer to that is probably ‘who cares?’

all the state border talks and pressures centre around nsw, vic and qld. I had no idea there were restrictions on wa for a long time.
The Feds will absolutely NOT be blackmailed by WA. The hard border hurts them more than it will hurt the rest of the country.

Talks are well advanced with NZ on reciprocal two way travel.
 

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I should also mention, Qld will probably open up to all of NSW within days after the election today and all other states are opening up in November

WA should not be weighing down the entire country
 
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Dare I say the answer to that is probably ‘who cares?’

Agree. if WA wants to close their borders in response to a health threat, that's up to them. I don't see how it is blackmail... it's just stating the measures they will take to keep WA covid free.
 
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The concern is that AUstralia might bend to WA because they want to open domestoc borders before international
Scomo has seen right through McGowan and is leaving him to his own prison. Eventually WA residents want out of being held captive in their state - that pressure was already there.

Meanwhile the mining revenue goes straight to the federal treasury.
 

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Apparently WA Premier said

“If the commonwealth government moves to keep establishI further travel bubbles with other nations, we reserve our rights to do what is in the best interests of WA, including reinstating our hard border,” he said.

So Technically NZ is not an issue for WA even if it expands to two-way.

Australia at the moment would consider opening to Pacific Island and low risk areas like Taiwan Singapore, Vietnam, maybe South Korea and Japan It’s the Pacific Islands and these South East and East Asian countries / territories that it relates to.
 

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