Oneworld separate ticket interline changes

[Quickstatus]

hey I wonder why this wasn't posted on qantasnewsroom.com.au
announcements and policy changes are normally posted there

Probably will be at some stage, however negative news are never going to posted there

 

[wandering_fred]

I've already started
QF - I see your minuscule saving initiative and raise you a truckload of TA commissions. Feels good too

Why is it I suspect that the rate of commission paid is rather small? Most of the TAs I know add a transaction fee.

The issue I have raised on other fora is that of the award ticket connecting with a cash ticket. Unless the reservation systems are changed to easily permit this, the flexibility of using the One World system loses its appeal. Especially where cash tickets are routinely available (eg PER-SIN-HKG).

As well (Red Roo?) the question of through checking between QF and JQ/3K on INTERNATIONAL tickets needs to clarified. And the QF online system needs to be modified to permit the purchase of the "basic FF packages 3K/JQ" when connecting as part of the journey.

In the end, being retired allows for overnight stops. So separate tickets will still be purchased. So far I think BA will be the biggest "loser".

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[RooFlyer]

Why is it I suspect that the rate of commission paid is rather small? Most of the TAs I know add a transaction fee.

<snip?

Change your TA, or stick with one.

I contacted my TA this morning (medium/large independent TA in Melbourne, does a lot of corporate and private travel and who does not charge me a surcharge (even on AMEX) or a booking fee). Said that they were getting a number of calls from non customers, enquiring whether, if they booked through the TA, if they could get interlining back via TA 'combining' bookings.

Also said the whole oneWorld interlining thing is a complete shambles at the moment. Cannot tell their clients with OW bookings under what conditions they will be allowed to interline, or not.

A pox on oneWorld, and its members (honourable exception for AA, who I think have said they will continue with their old policy).

 

[wandering_fred]

What about international codeshares? Will a QF metal, QF flight number connecting to CX metal, Qantas codeshare connection be interlined if on different PNRs?
If it will, then why the hell can't a QF to CX flight number be interlined? Of course, it can be done - as we've seen for the past X years. Its just now Qantas have decided they won't do it.
Fancy making passengers - Qantas' passengers - in some cases get a visa, go through immigration, collect bags, go to check-in in the 'transit' country then back through security just to continue their journey. Remember, this new policy was not imposed on Qantas. They chose to bring it in.

All of the CX/KA offerings I have seen on the QF online ticketing site have had non-code share flight numbers. While CX does have a number of code shares with AA, QF seems distinctly separate.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[MH_fan]

Seriously, what is the point of having an alliance?

 

[kreuky]

Interesting how 3 out of the 4 (CX, BA, QF) founding members of Oneworld have now changed their policies. I seriously hope I'm wrong, but I doubt AA would be far behind.

 

[RooFlyer]

All of the CX/KA offerings I have seen on the QF online ticketing site have had non-code share flight numbers. While CX does have a number of code shares with AA, QF seems distinctly separate.

Happy wandering

Fred

I should have said, for CX read any of the so-called oneWorld 'partners' where QF have codeshares.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

It's a little clearer why OW no longer uses their old marketing slogan of "Revolves Around You".

 

[wandering_fred]

Seriously, what is the point of having an alliance?

Check out the "earnings" of the OW members with respect to the partners' flights versus their own in the various FF programs. Especially the recent changes. The dis-continuing of through baggage check and IRROPs recovery across partner airlines adds incentive to consider the cost benefit analysis from the passengers point of view.

Will we see lounge access restricted to the J cabin for partner FF members? I hope not.

Happy wandering (as long as it is a single airline for this trip)

Fred

 

[alphahelix]

OW website still not updated to reflect the upcoming changes....

[h=3]oneworld transfers[/h]

• If you are travelling on connecting oneworld flights, your luggage will be checked through to your final destination at the time of check-in.*
• If the time between connecting oneworld flights is more than 12 hours, you may need to collect your luggage on arrival and check-in again with the outbound carrier.

 

[CMA222]

Qantas will be implementing the new oneworld ticketing arrangements on 1 September 2016. From 1 July Qantas check-in agents will be informing customers checking in on separate oneworld tickets the policy has changed and that for travel from 1 September, they will need to book connections in a single booking to be eligible for through check-in to their final destination. Hopefully this clarifies and answers some of your queries.

Red Roo

Qantas has done us a service through its association with Emirates and allowing us to experience the Emirates product. As the Oneworld and QF enhancements continue towards LCC levels I see the solution to be eliminating international travel on QF and changing to Emirates who have a network that means you can travel almost anywhere without the interlining issues. I have just signed up to Emirates Skywards to start my climb up their status ladder. Domestic travel will be BFOD. Loyalty - sorry - what is that?

 

[kooky]

Which are the common ports/gateways to Europe where they have a transfer desk that handles the interline for you? I presume this to mean that you rock up to the desk at transit, they organise someone to get your bags and recheck for you, you never leave transit. That seems palatable.

I read that SIN and HKG offer this. Is that right? Can you get this at BKK, KUL, DXB?

 

[BD1959]

So, along comes Mr/Ms Lawyer who - today - dutifully check the QF website (not AFF) and book accordingly.

Baggage with connecting flights


Question

If I am travelling on more than one flight to an international destination will my bags be checked through onto my next flight? Answer

Yes, if both your flights are booked on the same single reservation and your flights are all with Qantas or Qantas, Emirates and/or and another oneworld[SUP]®[/SUP] airline your baggage will be transferred between flights for you. You may need to check-in at the connecting point to obtain your next boarding pass from another oneworld carrier.

<snip>

Note: Your baggage will not be checked through and you will not receive your onward journey boarding pass if you hold two separate reservations for your international trip, where one reservation is with Qantas and the other reservation is with an airline that is neither Qantas, Emirates or a oneworld airline.
Regards,

BD

 

[docjames]

Thanks for your feedback. Please be assured that I will be passing comments and concerns on to the relevant team.

Cheers,
Red Roo

Qantas will be implementing the new oneworld ticketing arrangements on 1 September 2016. From 1 July Qantas check-in agents will be informing customers checking in on separate oneworld tickets the policy has changed and that for travel from 1 September, they will need to book connections in a single booking to be eligible for through check-in to their final destination. Hopefully this clarifies and answers some of your queries.

Red Roo

Disappointing given the limitations of the QF booking tool.

As another "data point" I used points to book J MEL-LHR-MEL for mrsdoc but had to separately search (and book) J LHR-AMS-LHR as a search MEL-LHR-AMS-LHR-MEL or MEL-AMS-MEL did not yield availability on the MEL-LHR leg. As it happened we had 4 days outbound in London, but the return leg was a through connection. We opted to book the earliest departure from AMS in order to allow a large connection window in LHR (given separate pnrs).

Until this sort of issue is fixed where your customers can search and find connected availability that matches separate availability, I feel this is a very unfair policy.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

I bet VA are glad they never paid a ridiculous amount to join Star Alliance. It was the best money they never spent!

Seems you now get a better result flying on airlines who have adhoc partnerships with other carriers and not those within any alliance.

is this change for tickets purchased after 1 July2016?.

What about tickets purchased prior to 1 July?

It sounds like a blanket rule effective 01 Sep 16 irrespective of ticketing date. Happy to be corrected if not.

As well (Red Roo?) the question of through checking between QF and JQ/3K on INTERNATIONAL tickets needs to clarified.

If booked on same ticket there is no change to the current policy eg BNE QF x/SIN 3K HKT. Plenty of people have had success booking onward connections on 3K via the QF website.

Qantas has done us a service through its association with Emirates and allowing us to experience the Emirates product.

As the Oneworld and QF enhancements continue towards LCC levels I see the solution to be eliminating international travel on QF and changing to Emirates who have a network that means you can travel almost anywhere without the interlining issues.

While we're on the subject of Emirates, I'm assuming there has been no change to being able to check through QF to EK on separate bookings?

Qantas has done us a service through its association with Emirates and allowing us to experience the Emirates product. As the Oneworld and QF enhancements continue towards LCC levels I see the solution to be eliminating international travel on QF and changing to Emirates who have a network that means you can travel almost anywhere without the interlining issues. I have just signed up to Emirates Skywards to start my climb up their status ladder. Domestic travel will be BFOD. Loyalty - sorry - what is that?

Instead of climbing the EK status ladder, why not contact them and see if they'll match your QF WP to EK Gold, they might just do it. Check out www.statusmatcher.com for other examples.

 

[timster]

Qantas will be implementing the new oneworld ticketing arrangements on 1 September 2016. From 1 July Qantas check-in agents will be informing customers checking in on separate oneworld tickets the policy has changed and that for travel from 1 September, they will need to book connections in a single booking to be eligible for through check-in to their final destination. Hopefully this clarifies and answers some of your queries.

Red Roo

Is this all part of the "Simpler and Fairer"[SUP]TM[/SUP] re-definition of "Full service airline" ?

 

[amaroo]

Wonder what the BA thread is like over on FT :mrgreen:

 

[Isochronous]

I'll be cutting up my QFF Card and mailing it back to Lesley Grant over this.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I'll be cutting up my QFF Card and mailing it back to Lesley Grant over this.

How many people actually will? Golden handcuffs will give few any flexibility to change their airline of choice.

 

[defurax]

Oneworld could have made it a status privilege instead of abolishing it for everyone.