Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[MelbFlyer]

I have no status and have noticed the availability for business to Singapore & Tokyo from anywhere in Australia on any date is now pretty grim

Yes, unfortunately with the recent changes (ie. QF no longer reliably releasing reward seats 3xx days in advance - but more spontaneously now), all you can probably see is JQ flights which aren't conducive to a OWA.

 

[smellan]

Hi all,

Another quick question- when calculating distance between sectors and subsequent total distance. Say I flew Cairns to Singapore but the route took me via Darwin but it was all on the same ticket not me booking separate legs. Would the distance flown be CNS-SIN or CNS-Darwin-SIN?

Thank you

 

[Captain Halliday]

Hi all,

Another quick question- when calculating distance between sectors and subsequent total distance. Say I flew Cairns to Singapore but the route took me via Darwin but it was all on the same ticket not me booking separate legs. Would the distance flown be CNS-SIN or CNS-Darwin-SIN?

Thank you

CNS-DRW-SIN

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hi all,

Another quick question- when calculating distance between sectors and subsequent total distance. Say I flew Cairns to Singapore but the route took me via Darwin but it was all on the same ticket not me booking separate legs. Would the distance flown be CNS-SIN or CNS-Darwin-SIN?

Thank you

Same flight number = origin to destination. For example QF 1 is calculated SYD-LHR, not SYD-SIN-LHR.

If you change flight numbers it will be calculated as separate sectors.

 

[elanshin]

Also remember its QF's distance calculator not GCM. So there's minor discrepancies which becomes important if you're pushing the 35000mi limit.

 

[smellan]

Also remember its QF's distance calculator not GCM. So there's minor discrepancies which becomes important if you're pushing the 35000mi limit.

Thank you

 

[atulhumane]

Hi All,

First of all thanks for your support on this group.

I am a newbie and now planning to book my first RTW (3 adult 1 infant) using QFF program. Could you please help me with the below queries.

1. We are still short of 100k points, can I still start booking reward flights as I can see some are are available for 1 of the stopover?

2. If yes, then do I pay full reward fare for the flight and once I book the whole itenary the point cutoff will take place.... I'm bit confused how we partially first and rest as soon as it's available.

3. Could you please help me with some links which will help in understanding the booking process and ways around it.

Thanks and appreciate your help.

 

[Mr H]

Hi All,

First of all thanks for your support on this group.

I am a newbie and now planning to book my first RTW (3 adult 1 infant) using QFF program. Could you please help me with the below queries.

1. We are still short of 100k points, can I still start booking reward flights as I can see some are are available for 1 of the stopover?

2. If yes, then do I pay full reward fare for the flight and once I book the whole itenary the point cutoff will take place.... I'm bit confused how we partially first and rest as soon as it's available.

3. Could you please help me with some links which will help in understanding the booking process and ways around it.

Thanks and appreciate your help.

You need to have enough points for the flights you book. You can add more flights later but each change would cost an additional 5,000 points per passenger - so if you are points-poor that is going to be a problem for you.

The first post in this thread has all the links and advice you should need.

 

[DC3]

Hi All

Welcome to AFF

 

[Mumanddad]

Just starting to research for an OWA next year. I am looking at an itinerary which means we will be starting and finishing at a different location. When does the loop automatically close - is it 12 months from the start date; and also how does Qantas treat the miles for an unused leg back to the starting point? For example, a flight AUK-SYD-TSV (GCM=2,392). Would all these miles be counted, or just the direct AUK-TSV 2,089 miles?

 

[DC3]

For example, a flight AUK-SYD-TSV (GCM=2,392). Would all these miles be counted, or just the direct AUK-TSV 2,089 miles?

AUK (Alakanuk Airport) is an airstrip in Alaska. I guess you mean AKL, i.e., Auckland Airport. Is AKL-SYD-TSV the whole itinerary? In that case you would just be booking two flights as (classic) awards.

 

[Mumanddad]

AUK (Alakanuk Airport) is an airstrip in Alaska. I guess you mean AKL, i.e., Auckland Airport. Is AKL-SYD-TSV the whole itinerary? In that case you would just be booking two flights as (classic) awards.

Whoops, it was meant to be Auckland. The route is just an example for the end of a trip.

 

[Dib80]

If I fly to PHX, then take a ground segment to SFO, is this counted as two stopovers (PHX + ground segment) or just the one stopover? TIA

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Just starting to research for an OWA next year. I am looking at an itinerary which means we will be starting and finishing at a different location. When does the loop automatically close - is it 12 months from the start date; and also how does Qantas treat the miles for an unused leg back to the starting point? For example, a flight AUK-SYD-TSV (GCM=2,392). Would all these miles be counted, or just the direct AUK-TSV 2,089 miles?

It will be 2089 miles.

But QF’s calculator is slightly different to GCM. But as long as you’re not pushing right up against the mileage limit you should be ok!

Post automatically merged: May 9, 2025

If I fly to PHX, then take a ground segment to SFO, is this counted as two stopovers (PHX + ground segment) or just the one stopover? TIA

Just one.

 

[Dib80]

Can you see anything wrong with this itinerary? Qantas Agents can't get it to calculate:

AU-HNL ground segment miles to be included for repositioning flight
HNL-PHX stopover
PHX-SFO ground segment
SFO-CLT transit
CLT-ALT stopover
ATL-DFW transit
DFW-SYD transit
SYD-HBA stopover
HBA-SYD transit
SYD-HKG transit
HKG-NRT stopover
NRT-KUL transit
KUL-PEN stopover
PEN-KUL transit
KUL-MEL transit
MEL-HBA end ticket

 

[DC3]

Whoops, it was meant to be Auckland. The route is just an example for the end of a trip.

For the OWA, the direct return distance from the final port on the itinerary back to the origin will be included. The QF distances and GCM may not be exactly the same, but this is only a concern if you are coming close to 35,000 miles.

Edit: Looks like I was beaten to it.

 

[DC3]

Can you see anything wrong with this itinerary? Qantas Agents can't get it to calculate:

I guess that the total distance of all segments does not exceed 35,000 miles, including back to the origin?

Edit: If the origin is in Oz, then once you return to Oz, the trip is over, from memory.

“AU-HNL ground segment miles to be included for repositioning flight”. I don’t quite follow this bit. Does the itinerary start in HNL or Oz?

 

[Captain Halliday]

Can you see anything wrong with this itinerary? Qantas Agents can't get it to calculate:

AU-HNL ground segment miles to be included for repositioning flight
HNL-PHX stopover
PHX-SFO ground segment
SFO-CLT transit
CLT-ALT stopover
ATL-DFW transit
DFW-SYD transit
SYD-HBA stopover
HBA-SYD transit
SYD-HKG transit
HKG-NRT stopover
NRT-KUL transit
KUL-PEN stopover
PEN-KUL transit
KUL-MEL transit
MEL-HBA end ticket

Far too many miles.

I make 36,787miles.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I guess that the total distance of all segments does not exceed 35,000 miles, including back to the origin?

Edit: If the origin is in Oz, then once you return to Oz, the trip is over, from memory.

“AU-HNL ground segment miles to be included for repositioning flight”. I don’t quite follow this bit. Does the itinerary start in HNL or Oz?

Itinerary starts in HNL, but the miles AU-HNL will need to be included to complete the OWA and distance calculations.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Far too many miles.

I make 36,787miles.

Agree. The OP may not have included the ground segment SFO-CLT in their calculations.