Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[motef]

I am not sure if this is the thread you were looking for however @madrooster did post something about surcharges and taxes

That thread has not been active for some time now.

 

[ozflier]

I am not sure if this is the thread you were looking for however @madrooster did post something about surcharges and taxes

Ta for that.

 

[GaryLG]

I must be doing something wrong and hoping some one here can help.

I wanted fine tune plans for a OWA trip and will need some help. But my first question is why is my proposed trip telling me it will cost 412k points under classic points awards in Business Class?

I thought it was meant to max out at 318k?

The trip I put in was

MEL-DOH-AMM-LHR-KEY-LHR-MEL

Not the final route as I want to do a second half before I return to MEL

 

[Kerrodt]

I must be doing something wrong and hoping some one here can help.

I wanted fine tune plans for a OWA trip and will need some help. But my first question is why is my proposed trip telling me it will cost 412k points under classic points awards in Business Class?

I thought it was meant to max out at 318k?

The trip I put in was

MEL-DOH-AMM-LHR-KEY-LHR-MEL

Not the final route as I want to do a second half before I return to MEL

What are the specific details of the flights that you are taking? The multiple LHR's could be a problem. My first avenue of exploration would be that one or more of the rules of the fare are not being complied with therefore it is not capping the points cost.

 

[motef]

I must be doing something wrong and hoping some one here can help.

I wanted fine tune plans for a OWA trip and will need some help. But my first question is why is my proposed trip telling me it will cost 412k points under classic points awards in Business Class?

I thought it was meant to max out at 318k?

The trip I put in was

MEL-DOH-AMM-LHR-KEY-LHR-MEL

Not the final route as I want to do a second half before I return to MEL

It may be the LHRs

Can you provide your route in this format

MEL-DOH transit less than 24hrs
DOH - AMM stop
etc etc

 

[motef]

ie
SYD HND JL (F) stop for less than 24hrs
HND HEL JL (J) stop
HEL DOH QR (J) transit
DOH MLE QR (J) stop
MLE CMB UL (Y) transit
CMB SIN 1,709 mi UL (Y) stop

 

[GaryLG]

Thanks guys that was the problem, too long a gap so when I changed the second "stop" at LHR to less than 24 hours it worked.

So I have some more questions please before I continue.

1. As I have some choices of airline for some sectors, I just want to get people's feedback on Business class with BA, Qantas, Royal Jordanian, Qatar and Cathay Pacific.

2. I just used the classic rewards multi-flights tool which doesn't really let you easily switch or check dates for each flight. Is there something better?

3. If I am doing a smaller one to Japan and then one major trip out of Melbourne, I know I cannot come back to MEL in the middle but do I need an actual return flight from MEL?

So if the first one was MEL-NRT-SIN and I made my own way back to MEL and then the main trip was MEL- AMM-LHR-etc-MEL , would I only need to buy a one way ticket and count the mileage one way?

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

In answer to #3 above:
You need to book as the award ticket
MEL-NRT-SIN-AMM-LHR-etc-MEL

and book a separate ticket SIN-MEL-SIN to cater for the ‘side trip’ to MEL.

Keep in mind that there will be no ’itinerary protection‘ for the separately ticketed flights, so leave enough wiggle room in the timing to cater for delays.

 

[motef]

Thanks guys that was the problem, too long a gap so when I changed the second "stop" at LHR to less than 24 hours it worked.

So I have some more questions please before I continue.

1. As I have some choices of airline for some sectors, I just want to get people's feedback on Business class with BA, Qantas, Royal Jordanian, Qatar and Cathay Pacific.

2. I just used the classic rewards multi-flights tool which doesn't really let you easily switch or check dates for each flight. Is there something better?

3. If I am doing a smaller one to Japan and then one major trip out of Melbourne, I know I cannot come back to MEL in the middle but do I need an actual return flight from MEL?

So if the first one was MEL-NRT-SIN and I made my own way back to MEL and then the main trip was MEL- AMM-LHR-etc-MEL , would I only need to buy a one way ticket and count the mileage one way?

In response to #2 you can also use the Japan Airlines tool

 

[GaryLG]

In response to #2 you can also use the Japan Airlines tool

Thanks, I'll give that a go.

 

[GaryLG]

In answer to #3 above:
You need to book as the award ticket
MEL-NRT-SIN-AMM-LHR-etc-MEL

and book a separate ticket SIN-MEL-SIN to cater for the ‘side trip’ to MEL.

Keep in mind that there will be no ’itinerary protection‘ for the separately ticketed flights, so leave enough wiggle room in the timing to cater for delays.

What about if I made the OWA start and finish in SIN?

So

SIN-NRT-MEL-AMM-LHR- etc- MEL

And just stay in Melbourne at the end?

So I just need a one way MEL-SIN to start and don't book the MEL-SIN leg (I think I still count that mileage)

 

[motef]

What about if I made the OWA start and finish in SIN?

So

SIN-NRT-MEL-AMM-LHR- etc- MEL

And just stay in Melbourne at the end?

So I just need a one way MEL-SIN to start and don't book the MEL-SIN leg (I think I still count that mileage)

Here is mine which starts in Syd with a "break" in SIN to make it a two trip OWA

Jan 2022
SYD HND 4,837 mi JL (J) stop for less than 24hrs
HND HEL 4,874 mi JL (J) stop
HEL DOH 2,732 mi QR (J)
DOH MLE 2,055 mi QR (J) stop
MLE CMB 483 mi UL (Y)
CMB SIN 1,709 mi UL (Y) stop

SIN-SYD-SIN (outside of OWA)

July 2022
SIN LHR 6,765 mi BA (J) stop
LHR HKG 5,994 mi BA (F)
HKG SYD 4,581 mi QF or CX (J)
34,029 m

 

[GaryLG]

Here is mine which starts in Syd with a "break" in SIN to make it a two trip OWA

Thanks.

So has anyone done it the way I was thinking of?

 

[Captain Halliday]

Thanks.

So has anyone done it the way I was thinking of?

Yes. There’s plenty of examples in this thread, including at least two of my trips where I have done what you have proposed.

 

[GaryLG]

Yes. There’s plenty of examples in this thread, including at least two of my trips where I have done what you have proposed.

Thanks. So am I correct that I would have to include the return mileage in the trip?

 

[Captain Halliday]

Thanks. So am I correct that I would have to include the return mileage in the trip?

Yes.

 

[GaryLG]

Thanks

 

[Danger]

Thanks guys that was the problem, too long a gap so when I changed the second "stop" at LHR to less than 24 hours it worked.

So I have some more questions please before I continue.

1. As I have some choices of airline for some sectors, I just want to get people's feedback on Business class with BA, Qantas, Royal Jordanian, Qatar and Cathay Pacific.

2. I just used the classic rewards multi-flights tool which doesn't really let you easily switch or check dates for each flight. Is there something better?

3. If I am doing a smaller one to Japan and then one major trip out of Melbourne, I know I cannot come back to MEL in the middle but do I need an actual return flight from MEL?

So if the first one was MEL-NRT-SIN and I made my own way back to MEL and then the main trip was MEL- AMM-LHR-etc-MEL , would I only need to buy a one way ticket and count the mileage one way?

Qatar is definitely the pick for J with Cathay second. British Airways may be okay if you get new J but you'll need a mortgage to pay the fuel fines. There's nothing wrong with Royal Jordanian's 787 J hard product but the soft product isn't anything to get excited about. At the end of the day, if you can get QR and/or CX, I'd be very pleased.

 

[GaryLG]

Qatar is definitely the pick for J with Cathay second. British Airways may be okay if you get new J but you'll need a mortgage to pay the fuel fines. There's nothing wrong with Royal Jordanian's 787 J hard product but the soft product isn't anything to get excited about. At the end of the day, if you can get QR and/or CX, I'd be very pleased.

Thanks. I knew some of those but it is good to have a more complete idea.

 

[k_sheep]

Well QF is showing SYD-SCL flights again. I'll locked that in for the start of my aborted Antarctica trip .... very much not confident of it being a reality by then (Dec 2021) but well nothing to lose!