Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[DC3]

... do you book one of these awards when there isn’t availability for all the sectors? ...

You book it bit by bit, as award availability opens up. Once you see availability, book it, or risk losing it. Then add other flights, later.

Award seats don't usually hang around forever.

Edit: It requires a few calls to the Call Centre @ 5,00 points/passenger/phone call. However, this is still a very good deal, so long as you have a few points up your sleeve.

 

[zoom&boom]

You book it bit by bit, as award availability opens up. Once you see availability, book it, or risk losing it. Then add other flights, later.

Award seats don't usually hang around forever.

Edit: It requires a few calls to the Call Centre @ 5,00 points/passenger/phone call. However, this is still a very good deal, so long as you have a few points up your sleeve.

Having just spent a reasonable amount of time with a Supervisor I actually read the T&Cs. It refers to “the original ticketed departure date” and not the issue date. The Supervisor stated that you cannot have a ticket valid longer than 12 months from the “issuing date”

I believe her interpretation is not correct. Does anyone know the correct answer?

 

[cjd600]

Having just spent a reasonable amount of time with a Supervisor I actually read the T&Cs. It refers to “the original ticketed departure date” and not the issue date. The Supervisor stated that you cannot have a ticket valid longer than 12 months from the “issuing date”

I believe her interpretation is not correct. Does anyone know the correct answer?

Rubbish.
Pretty much every OWA commenced at 360 days will have a completion date of +365 from date of original creation/issue.
I Just completed a booking, started on 8 Aug 2019, first flight 4 Aug 2020. Added final sector 28 Sep 19, and the award completes Aug 28 2020.
So, issue date 8 Aug 19, completion date 28 Aug 2020.
Its definitely 12mths from ticketed departure date, ie from 4 Aug 20 in my case. Not 8 AUg 19.
Roll the dice, sit on hold, and try again.
Hopefully the sword is put away

 

[zoom&boom]

Rubbish.
Pretty much every OWA commenced at 360 days will have a completion date of +365 from date of original creation/issue.
I Just completed a booking, started on 8 Aug 2019, first flight 4 Aug 2020. Added final sector 28 Sep 19, and the award completes Aug 28 2020.
So, issue date 8 Aug 19, completion date 28 Aug 2020.
Its definitely 12mths from ticketed departure date, ie from 4 Aug 20 in my case. Not 8 AUg 19.
Roll the dice, sit on hold, and try again.
Hopefully the sword is put away

Fantastic and Thanks. Yes once the BP had eased up I thought about it logically and came to the same conclusion. Thanks to this forum I live to fly another day. Hope I get the same Supervisor when I call to add further sectors....

Thankfully the sword was very rubbery

 

[DC3]

The ticketing date changes on each re-ticketing. Just check your e-ticket each time you make changes.

Ticketing date is displayed on the e-ticket in the section Passenger Ticket information, near the top of page 1.

 

[cjd600]

The ticketing date changes on each re-ticketing. Just check your e-ticket each time you make changes.

Ticketing date is displayed on the e-ticket in the section Passenger Ticket information, near the top of page 1.

But it’s about first ticketed departure date.
Not subsequent ticketing dates?

 

[DC3]

But it’s about first ticketed departure date ...

Well, that's a real fizzer.

 

[vetrade]

.................. Hope I get the same Supervisor when I call to add further sectors....

There's been a long standing acronym on AFF about what to do when a call centre person doesn't know something they should or insists they are correct about something you know is BS. It's HUACA - hang up and call again. It's surprising how often a different agent produces a better result

 

[DC3]

But it’s about first ticketed departure date.
Not subsequent ticketing dates?

So, I’ve checked over my ticketing dates.

The original QF e-ticket was issued on 8/8/19 as part of a Qantas OneWorld Award, with the first flight commencing on 1/8/20. Subsequently, I’ve added some more flights, all now ticketed, as they became available, with the last flight of the itinerary commencing on 19/8/20. This means that my last flight will be 12 months and 11 days since the original ticketing.

So, how would this meet the 12 month-from-original-ticketing? Well, it doesn’t of course but it’s within12 months of the most recent ticketing date and not the first ticketed date.

Edit: Is there another interpretation of this or are there crossed wires here?

 

[cjd600]

So, I’ve checked over my ticketing dates.

The original QF e-ticket was issued on 8/8/19 as part of a Qantas OneWorld Award, with the first flight commencing on 1/8/20. Subsequently, I’ve added some more flights, all now ticketed, as they became available, with the last flight of the itinerary commencing on 19/8/20. This means that my last flight will be 12 months and 11 days since the original ticketing.

So, how would this meet the 12 month-from-original-ticketing? Well, it doesn’t of course but it’s within12 months of the most recent ticketing date and not the first ticketed date.

Edit: Is there another interpretation of this or are there crossed wires here?

I see it as your award must complete by 31/7/21, not longer than 12 months after your first ticketed departure date (1/8/20). No matter what further changes you make, including to the departure date, that end date is locked in.

 

[DC3]

That’

I see it as your award must complete by 31/7/21, not longer than 12 months after your first ticketed departure date (1/8/20). No matter what further changes you make, including to the departure date, that end date is locked in.

That’s what I had always thought. 12 months to complete the itinerary, after the 1st flight, so effectively could be up to 2 years away. Now it seems somewhat confusing based on some posts, above.

 

[vetrade]

Haven't been following this thread for about 12 months so I'm a bit rusty. To save me some research time, has anyone had any success getting J reward seats for the JNB - GRU or GRU - JNB LAN flights or are they virtually non-existent? If you have managed to snaffle them, what timing worked for you?

Alternatively, does AA have regular J availability for flights from the east coast of USA to Argentina or Brazil?

 

[p--and--t]

One quick question to the brains trust. If I take a sector on one other OW carrier, and then take another sector that is a code share of the same carrier (but a different OW airline metal) - would that count as 2 carriers other than QF?

 

[flapper]

Haven't been following this thread for about 12 months so I'm a bit rusty. To save me some research time, has anyone had any success getting J reward seats for the JNB - GRU or GRU - JNB LAN flights or are they virtually non-existent? If you have managed to snaffle them, what timing worked for you?

Alternatively, does AA have regular J availability for flights from the east coast of USA to Argentina or Brazil?

LA have recently announced they will be leaving OW. No date has been announced yet.

 

[CaptainCurtis]

Hmm... I just did a mock itinerary on the QANTAS site with the routing of MEL-AKL-PPT STOP PPT-LAX STOP LAX-JFK STOP JFK-LHR-DOH stop DOH SYD-MEL all bar 2 sectors in Business and it came out at 318,000 points. This would infer that code share flights DO count as One World sectors wouldn't it? (in this case the AKL_PPT_LAX legs were Air Tahiti Nui with QANTAS code share flight #s. Is there any definitive rule book to consult that I could reference that you (or anyone else) knows of on the whole One World Award flight thing?

Is there any definitive answer to this?

 

[DC3]

... Is there any definitive rule book to consult that I could reference that you (or anyone else) knows of on the whole One World Award flight thing?

Is there any definitive answer to this?

Other than the information provided in my post # 7815, I have since found this on the QF site:

Frequent Flyer Terms and Conditions | Qantas Specifically Section 14.5 to 14.10

Regardless of dummy booking results, ticketing will be the proof of the pudding. Keep your fingers crossed.

 

[zoom&boom]

There's been a long standing acronym on AFF about what to do when a call centre person doesn't know something they should or insists they are correct about something you know is BS. It's HUACA - hang up and call again. It's surprising how often a different agent produces a better result

I called this morning at 7:00 am. Wait time was an unbelievable 1.5 minutes. I was able to add my additional sectors with no problems. Flights are showing on the FF site but as yet no points have been deducted. I haven’t received an revised E Ticket as yet either. Will start to get a little worried if not received by Tuesday.

FYI I initially tried to add the additional flights via the SMS procedure. Agent was adamant that you could not book earlier than -353 days. My statement that I could book on line at -361/360fell on deaf ears. After a 2 hour wait on the phone Inwas given incorrect information by an agent with regards to first departure date vs first ticketing date. I asked for a Supervisor and was told the same thing. It was only after I read the T&Cs that I realised that they were wrong. Thanks to this forum I was able to get it sorted I hope.

 

[DC3]

.... as yet no points have been deducted. I haven’t received an revised E Ticket as yet either. Will start to get a little worried if not received by Tuesday ....

The points charge may take a day or two to show on your account.

I would be worried if the e-ticket doesn’t arrive within the hour. Yes, it could take some days, but I never wait for that. You are best to keep on top of it.

Also, has your credit card taken a hit for the updates charges as yet?

 

[zoom&boom]

The points charge may take a day or two to show on your account.

I would be worried if the e-ticket doesn’t arrive within the hour. Yes, it could take some days, but I never wait for that. You are best to keep on top of it.

Also, has your credit card taken a hit for the updates charges as yet?

Now I’m getting worried. CC has not been debited....To the Batphone

 

[vetrade]

LA have recently announced they will be leaving OW. No date has been announced yet.

Ah yes, I'm aware of that, but they said they won't be leaving until at least late 2020, and possibly not until into 2021 (logistically, extracting themselves from all the OW agreements will take some time). Plus LATAM have stated they will honour all bookings made while they are still a OW member - which suggests to me it may be possible to book LA flights for a OW Reward right up till they actually do leave OW next year or beyond. Honouring such bookings could mean reward travel may be possible till around the end of 2021.

Of course, they might just not release any reward seats so that there won't be any bookings to honour - in which case the whole discussion is moot, but I'm a glass half full type so I intend to see how it plays out while still preparing alternate contingencies.