Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[blacknwhite]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all,we booked our 280k J award ticketed two months ago and since we have had changes to our flights,both different airlines and times but today was the best one,they have changed the day!Our flight from SCL-MEL(in PE) was supposed to leave on a Saturday and they have changed it to the Sunday.They have changed the schedule and there are no flights on a Saturday. Only flights are Friday and Sunday.We dont want to leave the Friday as it means only two days in SCL but it also means we have to pay an extra night in SCL.Do we have rights to complain.They have also changed the aircraft and am not happy with the PE config.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all,we booked our 280k J award ticketed two months ago and since we have had changes to our flights,both different airlines and times but today was the best one,they have changed the day!Our flight from SCL-MEL(in PE) was supposed to leave on a Saturday and they have changed it to the Sunday.They have changed the schedule and there are no flights on a Saturday. Only flights are Friday and Sunday.We dont want to leave the Friday as it means only two days in SCL but it also means we have to pay an extra night in SCL.Do we have rights to complain.They have also changed the aircraft and am not happy with the PE config.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance

Not unreasonable to expect for a hotel to be provided when they've changed flight days. But depends on the conditions of Carriage I guess.

Change of the PE product though... tough luck. Planes change. But surely we are just talking about a change to a different 747? How different can it be?

 

[coles525]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I should take more notice when i get updates in Award Wallet then. I just thought the program could never make its mind up...

 

[ablecookie]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Anyone can advise me whether Jetstar flight can be included in the Oneworld Schedule?

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Anyone can advise me whether Jetstar flight can be included in the Oneworld Schedule?

Nope. Only Oneworld airlines.

 

[ablecookie]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Nope. Only Oneworld airlines.

That's too bad, trying to get to HNL, there's no award seats on QF whatsoever, but plenty on JQ when I checked on Q site for award flights. BA allows Comair into the Oneworld family(managed to include JNB-LVI leg into the schedule).

Only way to get to HNL is SYD-LAX-HNL, burning up lots of miles!

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

That's too bad, trying to get to HNL, there's no award seats on QF whatsoever, but plenty on JQ when I checked on Q site for award flights. BA allows Comair into the Oneworld family(managed to include JNB-LVI leg into the schedule).

Only way to get to HNL is SYD-LAX-HNL, burning up lots of miles!

The individual airlines decide whether to make their subsidiary oneworld affiliates. BA flights by Comair are, but Vueling (also an IAG) airline is not. Not too many LCC are in global alliances.

I'm also heading to LVI on a trip next year, but booked it on a seperate cash ticket from JNB to save miles. I'd suggest your best option for HNL is to get to LAX and to scope a seperate rtn domestic ticket from there.

 

[wandering_fred]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Nope. Only Oneworld airlines.

Depends on what you mean by Oneworld schedule.

Jetstar Asia, Jetstar Japan and Jetstar Pacific added to oneworld’s Global Explorer

https://www.oneworld.com/news-infor...added-to-oneworld-s-global-explorer/maximized

Jetstar Australia already (ie previously) was able to be included.

Doesn't help much with the QF OneWorld award though.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Depends on what you mean by Oneworld schedule.

Jetstar Asia, Jetstar Japan and Jetstar Pacific added to oneworld’s Global Explorer

https://www.oneworld.com/news-infor...added-to-oneworld-s-global-explorer/maximized

Jetstar Australia already (ie previously) was able to be included.

Doesn't help much with the QF OneWorld award though.

Happy wandering

Fred

Yep, im assuming the OP was talking about OW Awards.

 

[ablecookie]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

The individual airlines decide whether to make their subsidiary oneworld affiliates. BA flights by Comair are, but Vueling (also an IAG) airline is not. Not too many LCC are in global alliances.

I'm also heading to LVI on a trip next year, but booked it on a seperate cash ticket from JNB to save miles. I'd suggest your best option for HNL is to get to LAX and to scope a seperate rtn domestic ticket from there.

Managed to do HNL by via NRT - had spare miles and segments!

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Cool. That works too

 

[GC_Engineer]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thanks to the help here I finally booked 2x J flight award for September 2016 for the following routing:

BNE - xSYD - xDOH - ATH (Stop 1)
FCO - xHEL - JFK (Stop 2)
YYZ - xJFK - YVR (Stop 3)
YVR - xNRT - xSYD - BNE

Taxes came to approx $800 each - which I think is great!

We need to attend a wedding in Hobart in Feb 2016 and was trying to see what the rules were around stopovers in the country of origin. Was thinking of trying to modify the routing to the following and pay the change fee, but a dummy search of a similar itinerary on QFF doesn't seem to work within the 280k limit? I have searched on this forum and it appears that this can be tagged on to the end of the journey but wondering if it can be added prior. Can anyone provide any advice?

OOL - xMEL - HBA (Stop 1)
HBA - xMEL - BNE (Stop 2)
BNE - xSYD - xDOH - ATH (Stop 3)
FCO - xHEL - JFK (Stop 4)
YYZ - xJFK - YVR (Stop 5)
YVR - xNRT - xSYD - BNE

 

[vetrade]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thanks to the help here I finally booked 2x J flight award for September 2016 for the following routing:

BNE - xSYD - xDOH - ATH (Stop 1)
FCO - xHEL - JFK (Stop 2)
YYZ - xJFK - YVR (Stop 3)
YVR - xNRT - xSYD - BNE

Taxes came to approx $800 each - which I think is great!

We need to attend a wedding in Hobart in Feb 2016 and was trying to see what the rules were around stopovers in the country of origin. Was thinking of trying to modify the routing to the following and pay the change fee, but a dummy search of a similar itinerary on QFF doesn't seem to work within the 280k limit? I have searched on this forum and it appears that this can be tagged on to the end of the journey but wondering if it can be added prior. Can anyone provide any advice?

OOL - xMEL - HBA (Stop 1)
HBA - xMEL - BNE (Stop 2)
BNE - xSYD - xDOH - ATH (Stop 3)
FCO - xHEL - JFK (Stop 4)
YYZ - xJFK - YVR (Stop 5)
YVR - xNRT - xSYD - BNE

I don’t see why that couldn’t work as long as it doesn’t exceed the max 35000 miles total distance (including land legs). The only contentious thing might be if QF wants you to include a return leg to OOL (there’s been some differing opinions about that in this thread recently which you might want to read. There’s no restriction on stopovers in the country of origin so your revised itinerary has 5 stopovers and 16 segments (land legs must be included in the segment count) and you don’t have more than one departure from the city of origin. You might need to change your final SYD – BNE leg to SYD – OOL.

Not sure what you mean by “doesn’t seem to work within the 280k limit” - the points are capped at 280k.

 

[Lynnelanne]

280K One world around world - please explain

Hi

Fortunately i received an AFF email that showed me that people on here were discussing a 280K One World around world fare. It seemed that people were discussing it as though it was common knowledge. Well I for one didn't know anything about it and am VERY excited by the idea. Could people please tell me more about it, like how you do it, reflections from those who have done it, what the rules are, where you access it (Q website I guess, but how)? Really keen, we've just retired and I have enough points.

thank you in advance, and please go gentle on the abbreviations

Lyn

 

[opusman]

Re: 280K One world around world - please explain

Others will no doubt know more, but my understanding (I've never really looked into it) is that you can only book it over the phone with Qantas directly (if you're using Qantas points), so there will be a phone service fee. The routing has to include at least 2 other OW airlines besides QF. And taxes etc will be extra of course.

 

[Meggsy]

Re: 280K One world around world - please explain

Every thing you need will be here. http://www.australianfrequentflyer....am/oneworld-award-140k-280k-420k-8228-74.html

 

[fersea]

Re: 280K One world around world - please explain

Lynnelanne,

If you look under the Qantas FF section of this website there is a thread that is currently sitting at 296 pages on this.

In basic terms, it is 140K points in Economy or 280K points in Business for up to six segments around the world. It is capped at 35000 miles (including the land components) and you must use 2 other One World airlines beside Qantas. (you can of course also use Qantas but you have to use two others). Stopovers of less than 24 hours don't count as separate flights.

In 2014 we did the following:

Canberra-Sydney-Auckland on Qantas, less than 24 hour stop over then Auckland - Santiago on LAN
Lima - Miami on American Airlines
Toronto - London on British Airways
London - Johannesburg on British Airways
Johannesburg - Hong Kong on Cathay
Hong Kong - Melbourne - Canberra on Qantas.

Had the time of our lives.

Was about $1500 in "taxes".

You can book online, although if you want to make any changes, you need to ring up and pay the phone service fee. I did that because award flights to South America are hard to get and being a six month trip, obviously the first flight became available a long time in advance of the last flight so I booked the first leg and then rang up about 6 months later to book the others and they turned the original flight into the 140k around the world.

 

[yld200]

Re: 280K One world around world - please explain

Hi Lynnelanne,

There's a whole thread dedicated to this topic in the QFF sub forum - http://www.australianfrequentflyer....ogram/oneworld-award-140k-280k-420k-8228.html

There's a lot of material in there and the main contributors have a lot of knowledge. The basics are, you need 140K/280K/420K for a Economy/Business/First class RTW trip, but you technically don't actually have to go around the world. You'll need to do a lot of planning and book some popular routes as far as a year in advance to get an award seat. You can have up to 5 stop overs and can book on oneworld partners (QF, Cathay, Japan airlines, AA, Iberia, etc.)

I would recommended reading through at least the last 20 pages or so of the above thread to get an idea of what is possible and what is not possible... good luck

 

[Danger]

Re: 280K One world around world - please explain

We really, really need to merge this thread.

 

[smckay]

Re: 280K One world around world - please explain

It's not really RTW; we went SYD-HKG-FRA-AMS-LHR-DXB-SYD (non-abbreviated: Sydney to Frankfurt via Hong Kong, then Amsterdam to London and return to Sydney) which were basically 3 'trips' on CX, BA & QF in order of travel.
Few tips: 140K is only economy and 280K is only Business. If you go through the US and take a First Class flight you break the system and the points change. You can go down in rank however, so your Business trip can have premium/economy no probs.

When you search, check all flight classes as sometimes they don't show all flights if you only check one. And be prepared for a LOT of searching, I generally have had to look for a good few days and lots of different flights. Next years trip we are going New York to Hong Kong to get to Sydney as miserable Qantas don't give up rewards flights easy.