Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[motef]

The rules are 318,000 for a J OWA,as I understand it , and have used in the past.
The route as planned is MEL - SYD - SCL with QF
BUE - ZUR with IB
Some internal Europe , as yet not planned and then
FRA - MEL with whoever

Qantas does not fly to SCL so there is your first issue. If you are using LATAM they left Oneworld on 1st May last year

 

[motef]

Also for "BUE to ZUR" i assume you mean EZE to ZRH on Iberia, there are no direct flights so it would be EZE-MAD-ZRH

To really help you out you need to be more specific.

The rules are very strict

 

[vetrade]

I am planning a OWA in November 2022 starting SYD - SCL In J.
Currently the points showing are a tad under 590,000 points and multiplied by 2 are a little over my points.
How do I make this booking within the 318,000 for a OWA?

If I understand your question correctly, the points for each person will be automatically capped at 318K provided you keep within the rules. You don't need to have enough points in your account to cover the points required for all individual flights

 

[Mr H]

Qantas does not fly to SCL so there is your first issue.

And the second issue is you need two carriers that are not QF - so Europe with whomever needs to be defined.

 

[gfraser]

Qantas does fly to SCL from mid next year And can be booked now ( not yet available for Nov)
I do understand EZE to ZRH is via MAD( my ignorance on abbreviations)
vetrade, my point is how do I make the first leg at 590,000 x 2 when I don’t have those points. I assume the booking will not be made due to lack of points
This is my main question
Thanks all for your help, so far.

 

[gfraser]

And the second issue is you need two carriers that are not QF - so Europe with whomever needs to be defined.

FRA to MEL will be early 2023 and as yet not available. I don’t have any preference for airline and am aware of the need for 2 other carriers other than QF

 

[motef]

You are not choosing flights that are Classic Rewards for the SYD-SCL
Remember to be included in an OWA there needs to be Classic Reward availability
The flight you are choosing is just a standard points pay hence the 593,300 pts per pax for that flight

 

[gfraser]

You are not choosing flights that are Classic Rewards for the SYD-SCL
Remember to be included in an OWA there needs to be Classic Reward availability
The flight you are choosing is just a standard points pay hence the 593,300 pts per pax for that flight

Aha, thank you very much for that observation - my mistake

 

[gfraser]

Ii am getting confused. This is the 3rd time I have booked this ( due to Covid) and as I understand you make the first sector on line and then call the CC for further sectors using the same PNR which will max out at 318,000.
My main concern is the first sector “I assume the booking will not be made due to lack of points”

 

[Mr H]

Ii am getting confused. This is the 3rd time I have booked this ( due to Covid) and as I understand you make the first sector on line and then call the CC for further sectors using the same PNR which will max out at 318,000.
My main concern is the first sector “I assume the booking will not be made due to lack of points”

You need a second non-QF carrier otherwise it won't max out. Pop in a flight - any flight (e.g. BHD-LHR on BA) and cancel that sector when you have a real sector using another carrier to add in.

 

[motef]

It seems that Qantas only release Premium Economy seats as Classic Rewards on this route

So no J availability at all

 

[Mr H]

It seems that Qantas only release Premium Economy seats as Classic Rewards on this route

That is nearly a year away - I don't know whether you have status but I think QF hides premium redemption seats from people without status until 5 days after the plane has left.

 

[Noah Count]

My main concern is the first sector “I assume the booking will not be made due to lack of points”

The first leg in J on classic rewards would be 108400 pp. As @motef points out above QF only seem to be releasing Y+. If you have WP status you could request for J seats to be released

 

[gfraser]

The first leg in J on classic rewards would be 108400 pp. As @motef points out above QF only seem to be releasing Y+. If you have WP status you could request for J seats to be released

Matt 01 - where did you see that?

 

[Noah Count]

Matt 01 - where did you see that?

I did not see J rewards availability, I only saw Y+. SYD-SCL is Zone 8 so you can get points required from the Classic Flight Reward Tables

 

[DC3]

…. I understand you make the first sector on line and then call the CC for further sectors using the same PNR which will max out at 318,000.
My main concern is the first sector “I assume the booking will not be made due to lack of points”

Until the bookings max out at 318,000 points, points are progressively deducted as each flight is booked. You do not need 318,000 points per person to start the process, but enough to cover each flight as it is booked.

You are not limited to booking only one flight on-line. You may book as many as you like, as long as the system doesn’t crash at some point. However, after the initial on-line booking, all additional flights and changes are made by phone.

 

[Mr H]

Until the bookings max out at 318,000 points, points are progressively deducted as each flight is booked. You do not need 318,000 points per person to start the process, but enough to cover each flight as it is booked.

This is true, although if the initial booking does not comply with the OWA rules, the points required might be higher and get refunded when subsequent flights bring the package into compliance. Example: if lots of flights are booked with QF and IB, it might exceed 318,000 unless/until a third carrier is added to the itinerary.

 

[gfraser]

You have all been very helpful and I now have a greater understanding and am ready to go when flights become available.

 

[DC3]

This is true, although if the initial booking does not comply with the OWA rules, the points required might be higher and get refunded when subsequent flights bring the package into compliance. Example: if lots of flights are booked with QF and IB, it might exceed 318,000 unless/until a third carrier is added to the itinerary.

Yes, although I understood gfraser was under the impression that the first flight could not be booked unless 318,000 points were available. This bit: ‘My main concern is the first sector “I assume the booking will not be made due to lack of points”.

 

[bnr032]

Im having trouble trying to locate certain flights, Which seem to exist in reality - but not on the Qantas website for flight searches.
Qatar airways say the final leg i could do CPH-DOH-BNE on the 12th Aug, but qantas seems to think it doesnt exist.

Could i also ask, when booking via phone (my journey is approx 15 flights so cant do online), Do the operators actually assist, ie if i tell them about the above flight, and if there is no business class, do they pro actively locate another option for you?