Oneworld Circle Pacific Question..

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  1. GagReflex

    GagReflex Newbie

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    I'm getting differing answers so I'm hoping someone can answer once and for all....

    The Itinerary I was hoping to do is:
    Melbourne - Honolulu - Tokyo - Hong Kong - Hanoi - Bangkok - Melbourne

    But I've been told that I must make a MAINLAND USA stop and that Honolulu doesn't count. Can anyone confirm that with the Circle Pacific fare Honolulu isn't considered a 'US' stop. I can't see any mention in the literature.

    Many thanks in advance..
     

  2. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    The stopovers rule is

    I suspect that the rule regarding the pacific crossings may be the issue

    Dave
     
  3. NM

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    Prior to JL joining OneWorld, this itinerary was not possible since the only OW carriers to operate to/fro HNL were AA and QF. I expect Dave is correct and only getting HNL does not count as crossing the Pacific.
     
  4. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

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    If not the Pacific then what do you cross when travelling MEL-HNL?
     
  5. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

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    MEL-HNL is fine as a south pacific crossing. HNL-NRT is not a north pacific crossing for the purpose of this fare.
     
  6. serfty

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    #6 serfty, Apr 3, 2007
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    I believe -HNL-LAX-NRT- would be valid.

    IIRC, Routing Oz|NZ-[AKL-]<North America> is considered South Pacific and Oz|NZ-NRT|HKG|HNL-<North America> is considered North/Central Pacific.

    The fare is not called a "Circle Pacific" for nothing; to "circle" the Pacific you must touch Oz/NZ, Asia and North America.

    To put it another way, it's not so much a touching the US that counts here; it's touching the North American continent. While Hawaii is one of the United States, it is not physically in North America.
     
  7. simongr

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    I think the circle pacific fare is considerably more expensive than the "new" circle asia fare (A$4500ish) - I was tempted by DCIRC (i think that is the fare code) but it was if i recall close to $8000.

    I am tempted by a routing via anchorage if I can it to work this year on a DONE4 or DCIRC (might use a DCIRC for my next trip to the US (NYC) rather than routing via London.

    S
     
  8. NM

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    You have only crossed half of the Pacific, not the entire expanse of ocean.
     
  9. HardieBoys

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    I've been quoted $AUD 7029 + taxes for a Circle Pacific. As the Australian dollar has risen 4% against the $US since I booked, I'm going to re-price the ticket this weekend. When I first enquired in late January, it was $AUD 7069 + taxes. A $40 drop is better than a kick in the head, I guess.
     
  10. GagReflex

    GagReflex Newbie

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    Latest Circle pacific fares

    22000 miles - $3069 + taxes
    26000 miles - $3739 + taxes
    29000 miles - $4399 + taxes

    Since I last checked the prices have skyrocketed.
    It's no longer worth thinking about these fares, around the world fares are far better value (unfortunately)
     
  11. HardieBoys

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    Hi,

    Are those fares in $US or $AUD? My fare was for SYD-HKG-LAX-SYD, which is pretty minimal a Circle Pacific itinerary, and as I said, it was quoted at $7029 plus taxes.
     
  12. GagReflex

    GagReflex Newbie

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    Sorry that was AU$ for economy class
     
  13. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    They are worth considering when wishing to do an itinerary that fits in with them; if wanting to visit part of Asia and part of the US, travelling around the world may well not appeal

    Also, they are typically cheaper than ATW tickets
    DCIRC22/26 are AUD7902 and AUD8579 compared to a DONE4 at AUD9699

    The DCIRC29SA is not that much cheaper at AUD10079 vs AUD10809 for a DONE5 , however given a choice of flying SCL-AKL-SYD vs South America - Europe - Asia - Australia, I know which I would rather do

    Dave
     
  14. simongr

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    What do people think of this:

    syd-nrt-pek-nrt-pvg-nrt-hkg-syd

    I think this fits netaly within a 17K Circle Asia fare. To get to Guanzhou we will catch a train from Shanghai or not bother going to Guangzhou (its only a small office). I dont think I could squeeze more out of it - but 40K miles isnt bad - shame its only 25k qpoints :(
     
  15. simongr

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    Just an update - does this look ok? I am booking for my boss originating in the US. He has been quoted US$19,370 for the direct return on QF!!!! I am suggesting a Circle Pacific fare:

    JFK-HKG 27 May CX841 Dep 10:10 arr 14:05 (28 May)
    HKG-SYD 29 MayCX161 Dep 21:05 arr 08:15 (30 May)
    SYD-JFK 11 June QF107 Dep 10:20AM arr 17:20PM

    There is availability in D for all flights.

    Am I missing something?

    S
     
  16. MelUser

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    I am aware with this airfare that 2 stops are required. Do they have to be outside the counry of origin (eg Australia). Could I fly to US (via HKG) and have one stop there and then one stop [min 24 hrs] in Syd on way back to melbourne?
     
  17. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

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    It would appear not...
     
  18. MelUser

    MelUser Established Member

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    what about using AKL. come back from US on QF 26 and spend 24 hrs in AKL. Does that work?
     
  19. serfty

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    I guess so!
     
  20. NM

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    well, yes it would, but on a Circle Pacific fare you have a very wide choice of where to spend your second stopover, so why on earth would you want to pick AKL :rolleyes: .
     
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