New Zealand Reports of the Virus Spread

[justinbrett]

One of the cases announced this afternoon is not currently linked to others but does have a 'link to the border'. So that could be MIQ or coming in on one of the last bubble flights for kiwi citizens. I think that's what the 130 is based on...undetected transmission for a couple of weeks.

And that's my point. It wouldn't be the first time that increased testing from an outbreak has caught new chains of transmission (Brisbane and Melbourne for example).

It just raises the question of how much covid is circulating when we're not looking for it?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

And that's my point. It wouldn't be the first time that increased testing from an outbreak has caught new chains of transmission (Brisbane and Melbourne for example).

It just raises the question of how much covid is circulating when we're not looking for it?

Given Melbourne's Delta experience - 1 week of not looking equals about 5 mystery cases........

 

[drron]

I wonder how confident this makes the WA Premier feel about Covid zero. But he probably doesn't think it applies to him.

 

[bcworld]

NZ red zoned.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427895687803392005

 

[jakeseven7]

I wonder how confident this makes the WA Premier feel about Covid zero. But he probably doesn't think it applies to him.

MMG: What’s Covid?

 

[justinbrett]

Including suspending their Covid Vaccinations for 48hours.

And when they open, they are reducing capacity to allow for social distancing.

Seems odd they don’t account for that already.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

So given the below there could be many already infected, but who are waiting to be found.

The 58-year old man is believed to have been infectious since 12 August. Since then he has travelled from Auckland to Coromandel and back, stopping at a number of locations along the way.​

Luck always plays a big part. How infectious they are, where they go, numbers exposed etc.

The Melbourne apartment resident, infected by the delivery crew, in a similar period of time before his positive test result came in was estimated to have already led to one hundred people being infected either directly or through people he had infected. And one of the people he infected at the MCG was even more prolific.

On the other hand a Delta case spent the weekend visiting a wide range of venues in Wellington and did not infect one person on the entire trip including flights. From memory they only infected their partner in Australia. BBQ man was also quite active , but again only infected the one.

 

[bcworld]

11 new cases in Auckland....total 21 now.

 

[burmans]

11 new cases in Auckland....total 21 now.

Yeah I think with the speed Delta transmits and how many places the index case went to it was quite likely they would have caused spread before lockdown even occurred.

 

[justinbrett]

In a bit of comic relief, "Season 3" of the daily NZ presser has received critical acclaim..

'Delta is here to shake up season 3': Top IMDb rating for return of daily Covid-19 briefings

As Aotearoa re-negotiates lockdown, online reviewers praise the daily show.

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[N860CR]

It’ll be interesting in NZ. A totally complacent population that by default will have a fairly poor understanding of required measures. Australia, Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan. Is New Zealand the last of the doona countries to fall?

 

[jakeseven7]

It’ll be interesting in NZ. A totally complacent population that by default will have a fairly poor understanding of required measures. Australia, Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan. Is New Zealand the last of the doona countries to fall?

Possibly but their vaccine program has been incredibly slow, worse than Australia’s, so they will be in for months of high restrictions if they can’t put it back in the box.

Possibly like Australia - ‘the outbreak they had to have…’

 

[burmans]

Possibly but their vaccine program has been incredibly slow, worse than Australia’s, so they will be in for months of high restrictions if they can’t put it back in the box.

Possibly like Australia - ‘the outbreak they had to have…’

As I've noted elsewhere they are due to get all their vaccine by end Sept (and its on target, even slightly ahead) so it really depends on how fast they can now vaccinate with those vaccines. It's Pfizer too so no worries about having only 3 weeks between doses. Tend to agree about complacency though.

Edit: and of course what vaccine hesitancy exists, though once again latest outbreak may take care of that to a degree.

 

[serfty]

It's Pfizer too so no worries about having only 3 weeks between doses.

Although experince in the Northern hemisphere has indicated 12 weeks can provide longer term protection with both Pfizer and AZ.

It is "Delta" though, so the shorter time may be preferable.

 

[Mattg]

It’ll be interesting in NZ. A totally complacent population that by default will have a fairly poor understanding of required measures.

I am in Auckland and that is not my experience here at all. The measures have been clearly articulated and most people seem to be following the rules.

 

[burmans]

I am in Auckland and that is not my experience here at all. The measures have been clearly articulated and most people seem to be following the rules.

Including getting vaccinated at the first opportunity?

 

[justinbrett]

The testing rate for Auckland was only about 12,000 which is woeful for a city that size.

 

[N860CR]

I am in Auckland and that is not my experience here at all. The measures have been clearly articulated and most people seem to be following the rules.

I more mean when you’re in a more manageable level of lockdown. Assuming this doesn’t get back to zero (which it may well do)

 

[Mattg]

Including getting vaccinated at the first opportunity?

I can't speak for everyone, but generally, yes. Keep in mind that they prioritised border/health care workers for vaccinations and only just opened up to the 40+ age group of the general population this week.

I more mean when you’re in a more manageable level of lockdown. Assuming this doesn’t get back to zero (which it may well do)

I do think it will get back to zero in NZ, since they have picked it up relatively quickly and locked down hard. That is certainly the government's intention, anyway.

To be clear, I'm not saying that everything NZ does is perfect. I do agree that there should be higher testing capacity in Auckland and that the current vaccination rate is too low.

 

[justinbrett]

+11 for NZ, total 31, including 2 for Wellington. I'm guessing at least the North Island will stay locked down.

Suggest we rename the thread to "NZ reports of the virus spread" so it lives on post lockdown.