Looks like QF have unleashed a big sale.

[blu]

Would you mind giving me clues as to what dates the 128k points $600 JASA you saw were? How did you find such a low JASA?
V

You just need to look at all the options showing around the dates you wish to travel (and hope that luck is with you).
My trip is later in the year, so possibly more choices remaining than earlier dates.
In the Award booking engine ensure 'flexible dates' selected, that will let you keep searching in 7 day blocks.
You are looking to find an award, at for example, at 180K when all the others may be 800k. Then use the slider to pay $ for the points in excess of the classic level (128k). At 180k it was approx $600 whereas at 800k it is approx $6,400)
I was lucky and found one only a week away from where I started.
Have you read this thread for greater discussion:
http://www.australianfrequentflyer....uent-flyer-program/how-do-i-book-j-29610.html

 

[dcm]

I'm not sure if I have read it correctly but there appears to be an inconsistency between the terms and conditions. I looked at a return MEL-LHR J fare. On the home page the t&c indicate that there is a refund for cancellation before departure ($750 on a $6999 fare) but at the booking stage the t&c state that there is no refund for any cancellation.

Follow up: I now see that the sale fare is listed as "Limited Offer" and has the refund availability whilst the more commonly available fare "Exclusive Business" does not. I think the availability of the former must be very limited.

 

[pauly7]

This sale is throwing up some fantastic JASA's all around the place.

Scored a couple of very cheap a380 flights to Honkers!

 

[JohnK]

Not sure if that is, but I'm just wondering, is 15 flights in 3 days pushing it? (might be 4 days actually, due to the time differences)

From memory I had 12 flights in 3 days and it was pushing it. All you need is one delay to stuff up those plans and the more flights you need to fix the worse it gets.

 

[samh004]

From memory I had 12 flights in 3 days and it was pushing it. All you need is one delay to stuff up those plans and the more flights you need to fix the worse it gets.

But if they're all part of the same booking, you should more or less be protected, and then while you may miss a few stops, it's just original routing credit

 

[pagingjoan]

This sale is throwing up some fantastic JASA's all around the place.

Scored a couple of very cheap a380 flights to Honkers!

It's also throwing up some very peculiar results. For example, Oz-LHR return in F, for just under $10K. Then the "alternatives" offered on various legs - including cases where there is no change of flight, no change of aircraft, presumably no change even of seat! - and the add on is around $10K! :!:
The difference varies but is sometimes an EK code on the same QF flight, for instance.

So you could have the same flight, same plane, same seat, all the way through but the price goes from $10K to $20K, if the EK code is on your boarding pass for one leg.) Some of the other add on variations involved swaps from EK to QF but I have not recorded them. Surprisingly, I didn't book them. )

Maybe this will be sorted after 31 March - but that doesn't help with the current sale.

 

[blu]

I deliberating over the current Global Sale or hanging out for the highly anticipated (well IMHO) "April 1" Sale, which timing wise is better suited for me - some 2-4-1 options would be nice (optimist).

 

[JohnK]

But if they're all part of the same booking, you should more or less be protected, and then while you may miss a few stops, it's just original routing credit

They were not part of the same booking but to me the flying is just as important, if not more, than the SCs and points.

 

[hotpaws]

It's also throwing up some very peculiar results. For example, Oz-LHR return in F, for just under $10K. Then the "alternatives" offered on various legs - including cases where there is no change of flight, no change of aircraft, presumably no change even of seat! - and the add on is around $10K! :!:
The difference varies but is sometimes an EK code on the same QF flight, for instance.

So you could have the same flight, same plane, same seat, all the way through but the price goes from $10K to $20K, if the EK code is on your boarding pass for one leg.) Some of the other add on variations involved swaps from EK to QF but I have not recorded them. Surprisingly, I didn't book them. )

Maybe this will be sorted after 31 March - but that doesn't help with the current sale.

I have just managed to book an F flight ADL-ZRH via Dubai and London, with a stopover in London, for under $10K. Reading the Fare Conditions on Expert Flyer, found the fare was not valid on alot of QF codeshare flights, operated by Emirates, hence the reason the fare jumps dramatically if selecting these flights. Did manage 2 sectors on EK, the DXB-LHR and LHR-SYD sectors, so will get to try the EK suites.
Looking at availability on EK, there appears to be very little First availability on QF codeshare flights on EK metal, and those that have availability seem to only have 2 A seats available (and more interestingly never any seats in the F bucket. Looks like they are trying to keep people on QF metal!
Can't complain though, this flight (thanks to purchasing through a travel agent) will net me 1040 SC, so just a few Australian flights to maintain WP status.

 

[pagingjoan]

I have just managed to book an F flight ADL-ZRH via Dubai and London, with a stopover in London, for under $10K. Reading the Fare Conditions on Expert Flyer, found the fare was not valid on alot of QF codeshare flights, operated by Emirates, hence the reason the fare jumps dramatically if selecting these flights. Did manage 2 sectors on EK, the DXB-LHR and LHR-SYD sectors, so will get to try the EK suites.
Looking at availability on EK, there appears to be very little First availability on QF codeshare flights on EK metal, and those that have availability seem to only have 2 A seats available (and more interestingly never any seats in the F bucket. Looks like they are trying to keep people on QF metal!
Can't complain though, this flight (thanks to purchasing through a travel agent) will net me 1040 SC, so just a few Australian flights to maintain WP status.

Interested to see your update, hotpaws - and well done on the booking.
I have an F LHR return on hold until tonight, at a similar price, just waiting for some other bits of the puzzle to fall into place.

Did you find the detailed T&Cs also on the QF site - or only on EF? I haven't found a list of eligible flights on the QF site, although it's obvious that many flights are excluded from the sale. Just no consistent pattern showing up for the exclusions.

In fact, I had one itinerary, with a domestic leg as the final flight, that jumped up by around $5K with a change in time on a domestic flight! Go figure where that one fits in to T&Cs?

 

[hotpaws]

Interested to see your update, hotpaws - and well done on the booking.
I have an F LHR return on hold until tonight, at a similar price, just waiting for some other bits of the puzzle to fall into place.

Did you find the detailed T&Cs also on the QF site - or only on EF? I haven't found a list of eligible flights on the QF site, although it's obvious that many flights are excluded from the sale. Just no consistent pattern showing up for the exclusions.

In fact, I had one itinerary, with a domestic leg as the final flight, that jumped up by around $5K with a change in time on a domestic flight! Go figure where that one fits in to T&Cs?

I managed to find the detailed t&c on Expert Flyer, it appears (and this is just my opinion) that the premium codeshare flights operated by EK are the excluded ones (for DXB-LHR, excludes QF8001-8004, which are EK 1-4). Did not seem to be too many flights operated by 777 excluded, and QF8412 DXB-SYD on the A380 was ok. It did appear that most of the excluded flights had no A availability also. Domestically, still seems to book into I class, so need I class availability or fare will jump enormously. If you wanted t&c off EF, let me know specific route and I will get them for you.

 

[hotpaws]

I managed to find the detailed t&c on Expert Flyer, it appears (and this is just my opinion) that the premium codeshare flights operated by EK are the excluded ones (for DXB-LHR, excludes QF8001-8004, which are EK 1-4). Did not seem to be too many flights operated by 777 excluded, and QF8412 DXB-SYD on the A380 was ok. It did appear that most of the excluded flights had no A availability also. Domestically, still seems to book into I class, so need I class availability or fare will jump enormously. If you wanted t&c off EF, let me know specific route and I will get them for you.

Here are the exluded flights on Australia - London :

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
QF FLIGHTS 3950 THROUGH 3951
QF FLIGHTS 3954 THROUGH 3955
QF FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999
QF FLIGHTS 3345 THROUGH 3346
QF FLIGHTS 319 THROUGH 320
QF FLIGHTS 3501 THROUGH 3502
QF FLIGHTS 8001 THROUGH 8004
QF FLIGHT 8413
QF FLIGHT 8407
QF FLIGHT 8435
QF FLIGHT 8421
EK FLIGHTS 001 THROUGH 004
EK FLIGHT 413
EK FLIGHT 407
EK FLIGHT 435
EK FLIGHT 421
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX.

 

[pagingjoan]

I managed to find the detailed t&c on Expert Flyer, it appears (and this is just my opinion) that the premium codeshare flights operated by EK are the excluded ones (for DXB-LHR, excludes QF8001-8004, which are EK 1-4). Did not seem to be too many flights operated by 777 excluded, and QF8412 DXB-SYD on the A380 was ok. It did appear that most of the excluded flights had no A availability also. Domestically, still seems to book into I class, so need I class availability or fare will jump enormously. If you wanted t&c off EF, let me know specific route and I will get them for you.

Thanks for the offer, hotpaws, but I have converted my "Pay Later" booking to a confirmed booking, as have now had a mirrored booking for my partner in J.

Amusingly, his booking came through from the TA (I did my own directly but his is done through a work-related agency) with some differences on a couple of legs. When queried as to why the bookings were not on the same flights, she came back to say that she thought that the flights she had chosen were the best value all round but that, on closer examination, she could see that my option was cheaper, despite being on code shares that she would have thought QF would have protected. Her assessment: "I can't figure out what they are doing. It doesn't make sense."

I'm with her on that last assessment. At the moment, at least, there seems neither rhyme nor reason to it.

Just on the domestic leg issue, the +$5k bit came about just by changing from a Sunday morning flight BNE-MEL to a Sunday afternoon flight BNE-MEL. I don't think booking class can explain that one.

Clarity may emerge. And, in the meantime, you will have the pleasure of anticipating your F Suites flights - as will I.

 

[pagingjoan]

Here are the exluded flights on Australia - London :

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
QF FLIGHTS 3950 THROUGH 3951... (snip) ....ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX.

Ah, thank you. Had not seen your list when I replied to your earlier message.
Don't you love the terminology of:
QF FLIGHTS 3950 THROUGH 3951
QF FLIGHTS 3954 THROUGH 3955
QF FLIGHTS 3345 THROUGH 3346 etc?

And this came from EF, not from the QF site?

 

[smit0847]

Not sure if that is, but I'm just wondering, is 15 flights in 3 days pushing it? (might be 4 days actually, due to the time differences)

I'm doing MEL-SYD-BKK-IST-CPH-OSL-KEF in 36 hours in July.

Fortunately it's all J.....

 

[BindiBratz]

The sale has been extended either to "Many Destinations" until Thursday, or to all destinations until Thursday, depending on whether it's domestic or business travel.

I have struggled to find anything to suit our plans in J for the entire journey for the trip we intend (at a decent price), and apart from earning points and status credits, the appeal of flying ALL the way from Perth to Melbourne to then fly west to Europe is zilch . . . . . actually, I did contemplate it in a wee moment of madness :shock: :mrgreen:

 

[The Rok]

I managed to find a QF Codeshare operated by EK from Perth to Dublin for $6500 return in J, pretty happy with that.

 

[Limewood]

Just booked 2 x Y CNS/SYD/HKG/SYD/CNS for a mere $845 per pax, one stopover in SYD on departure, happy with that. Not seen QF fares like this for a long time, its getting competitive out there.

 

[verduzzo]

Thanks Blu.
V

 

[drewbles]

I wonder if there are any TR's about how some of us handle some of these big runs.

I've done several monster runs and I know a number of folks on here who have done similarly.

Whilst F is a better place to be, you're still on a US aircraft at FL380

It takes its toll but its not so bad. I've done 4 or 5 now. It's a lot of fun