Lack of curtains separating Business and Economy on 737

[DC3]

Is this thread still going?
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It's taken on a life of it's own. And it will soon go to an extra page.

 

[marki]

DC3 as you have rightly noticed it has a life of all of it's own............did you realize you made it click over to an extra page. Well done. Bravo..........Curtain call.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

There is a mirror in the forward VA dunny (I checked today)

• There is a mirror in the forward QF dunny (I checked on Sunday just gone)

What about down the back. I can honestly say I have no idea. I knew mirrors were at the front and I just assumed they'd be in all the WCs as it's not just WPs that like to look at themselves!

Personally, I think mirrors should be banned. I don't particularly like that aging man looking back at me all the time.

 

[PJF]

I understand the mirror thing, so from this point forward I am just being antagonistic:

• There is a mirror in the forward VA dunny (I checked today)
• There is a mirror in the forward QF dunny (I checked on Sunday just gone)

It is just a narrow body, who cares who uses the front dunny, both airlines have equally bad J seating, and IMO there is no J experience on QF or VA domestic or any route they use a 737.

That most likely is the case but it still doesn't justify people doing the wrong thing when they do not need to and IMHO to then compound/contribute to the decline in service that you say no longer exists

 

[JohnK]

What about down the back. I can honestly say I have no idea. I knew mirrors were at the front and I just assumed they'd be in all the WCs as it's not just WPs that like to look at themselves!

Personally, I think mirrors should be banned. I don't particularly like that aging man looking back at me all the time.

Both toilets down the back have mirrors but luckily those mirrors are above waist height.

I hate mirrors too and they are scary. All I ever see is this fat, old, bald man. Saw him again this morning.

 

[marki]

Both toilets down the back have mirrors but luckily those mirrors are above waist height.

I hate mirrors too and they are scary. All I ever see is this fat, old, bald man. Saw him again this morning.

I don't think so I have seen you in real life.....Your suffering Warped perception like body perception disorder, a warped mirror can be straightened. In relation to the fat,old & bald (FOB)..........FOB stands for or is short for....in medical terms "Fecal Occult blood" testing. Maybe that's what people do when taking extraordinary long time in the forward loo.....? Before its sucked down or wooshed away?

 

[love_the_life]

Personally, I think mirrors should be banned. I don't particularly like that aging man looking back at me all the time.

You share the toilet with someone else?

 

[Daver6]

Flying Y on QF 9 yesterday. Now I know not a 737, but my entire Y experience was completely ruined by the "scum" in Y+ continually coming through the curtains to use the exclusive Y toilets. There are only four toilets for the entire Y cabin of 50 million pax. I had to queue an extra two minutes. As well, they ruined my meal as they walked past and their bottom was at eye level. How dare Qantas let the high class folk mingle with me. If I wanted that experience I would have paid extra!

Do people in Y+ have no ability to plan ahead and no bladder control? Surely they could just hang on for the next 17 hours until they got to LHR?

I realise being in Y this is a third world problem, but its a real problem for us plebs

 

[Matt_01]

@swanning_it and @JohnK that older chap in the mirror must travel a lot, I have seem him on many flights and hotels.

 

[Matt_01]

Do people in Y+ have no ability to plan ahead and no bladder control? Surely they could just hang on for the next 17 hours until they got to LHR?

I realise being in Y this is a third world problem, but its a real problem for us plebs

How do you know these people are from the Y+? They could have been from J and made journey Y just to annoy every one and seek revenge on the 737 J class intruders.

Just stirring the pot.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

You share the toilet with someone else?

@swanning_it and @JohnK that older chap in the mirror must travel a lot, I have seem him on many flights and hotels.

Thank heavens you've confirmed my observations! For a while there, I thought it was just me he was stalking!

 

[marki]

Flying Y on QF 9 yesterday. Now I know not a 737, but my entire Y experience was completely ruined by the "scum" in Y+ continually coming through the curtains to use the exclusive Y toilets. There are only four toilets for the entire Y cabin of 50 million pax. I had to queue an extra two minutes. As well, they ruined my meal as they walked past and their bottom was at eye level. How dare Qantas let the high class folk mingle with me. If I wanted that experience I would have paid extra!

Do people in Y+ have no ability to plan ahead and no bladder control? Surely they could just hang on for the next 17 hours until they got to LHR?

I realise being in Y this is a third world problem, but its a real problem for us plebs

A 4 times bigger problem when your counting cash.

 

[JohnK]

@swanning_it and @JohnK that older chap in the mirror must travel a lot, I have seem him on many flights and hotels.

What a coincidence. Follows me everywhere too.

 

[Pushka]

What a coincidence. Follows me everywhere too.

Yikes. I’m glad I don’t see these men when I make a visit.

 

[Hvr]

Just stirring the pot.

The honey pot?

 

[JohnK]

Interesting observation on Sunday's flight SYD-OOL.

Very lightly loaded flight. Only a few in business class and CSM announcement mentioned something along lines of ".... and one toilet at the front for the exclusive use of business class customers". I thought that sounds fair. She then proceeded to welcome 3 people at different times from well behind me in row 6 to use the front toilet. One of those a teenage boy. No queue at any point but interesting to hear the announcement and then going back on her word.

 

[Natalie Z]

Eh, as a newbie who's flown business once, I may as-well put my 2 cents in.

Shocking that QF would remove the curtains separating business and economy, just to save costs. Save *what* costs, exactly? Those tickets are generally $800-1200 more expensive if we're talking domestic, and within the thousands when we're talking international. In business, you're literally paying to be separate from economy.

I wonder how much the curtain costs?

 

[moa999]

I wonder how much the curtain costs?

I suspect the custom plastic divider costs more.

It also drastically improves the Row 4 (typically P1 or P flyers) exoerience by not having a big curtain covering seatpockets.

And at least in my view looks more modern.

Virgin has a little rope divider, Qantas chose not to do this.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

A divider doesn't have to be obtrusive. The little magnetic rope one that VA use seems to have the effect of turning everyone back. Of course, it then needs to be reinforced by crew behaviour for the odd person who just helps themselves through it.

I think QF would achieve the desired effect by having similar, although they probably wouldn't want to do that, not because of cost, but because they don't want to give the impression that they are following VA!

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Interesting observation on Sunday's flight SYD-OOL.

Very lightly loaded flight. Only a few in business class and CSM announcement mentioned something along lines of ".... and one toilet at the front for the exclusive use of business class customers". I thought that sounds fair. She then proceeded to welcome 3 people at different times from well behind me in row 6 to use the front toilet. One of those a teenage boy. No queue at any point but interesting to hear the announcement and then going back on her word.

It happens a lot JohnK. No sign of any desire to change it either. Next time I might record the announcement and then play it back for the CSM when they are happily chatting to the interlopers and see what the response is!