I think I've become an intolerant QP snob!

[Stephen65]

Why stop there! If someone allows there kids to run rampant in the lounge they should be subject to the same conditions.

I have two young children who accompany us into the QP and I would be happy with a rule like this.

 

[BAM1748]

Why stop there! If someone allows there kids to run rampant in the lounge they should be subject to the same conditions.

I think there are a couple of other threads you can refer to kids. Let 'search' be your friend.

 

[11sjw]

Why stop there! If someone allows there kids to run rampant in the lounge they should be subject to the same conditions.

Some suit prattling on for 30min at a volume I consider to be too loud, can I have them kicked out as well?

 

[SeatBackForward]

Some suit prattling on for 30min at a volume I consider to be too loud, can I have them kicked out as well?

Lemme guess, sitting in the quiet mobile free area too?

 

[11sjw]

Lemme guess, sitting in the quiet mobile free area too?

Seems like we're all getting a wee bit too precious and have this idealised image of what travel should be. It's not elite anymore and never will be. So as the numbers grow the behavioural (sp) distribution curve spreads out and, consequently, people get annoyed.

"Bogan Miners" get annoyed with "D/head suits" talking loudly. "Mum & Dad" (with 2 x juniors) get annoyed with "Bogan Miners" being loud/obnoxious. "Suit" gets annoyed with "kids" disturbing them.

Who has a greater right to the lounge if they all believe they're not offending anyone?

Sometimes you either deal with it then and there (with staff help) or live with it.

 

[harvyk]

Why stop there! If someone allows there kids to run rampant in the lounge they should be subject to the same conditions.

As a father of 4, I agree with this too.

Every time I've take my kids into the lounge I am very aware if the volume gets too high, and with exception to the kids zone at the QP in SYD T3, the rule is that they sit there and remain quite. (A bit of food and something to drink helps nicely).

Given the sort of person I am, if my kids started running around like wild things I would most likely eject the kids (and sadly myself) from the lounge well before any staff member felt the need to ask us to leave. I personally don't like the idea of my kids disturbing others (My dad was very much the same way with me when I was a young lad, so that's probably got a lot to do with it)

 

[BAM1748]

As a father of 4, I agree with this too.

Every time I've take my kids into the lounge I am very aware if the volume gets too high, and with exception to the kids zone at the QP in SYD T3, the rule is that they sit there and remain quite. (A bit of food and something to drink helps nicely).

Given the sort of person I am, if my kids started running around like wild things I would most likely eject the kids (and sadly myself) from the lounge well before any staff member felt the need to ask us to leave. I personally don't like the idea of my kids disturbing others (My dad was very much the same way with me when I was a young lad, so that's probably got a lot to do with it)

Didn't do me any harm as kid to be seen and not heard. :mrgreen: (although some may beg to differ)

 

[Longrass]

It entitles you to a business class seat and business class service. You still have to conform to socities accepted norms.

Socities accepted norms only apply to those whom accept them. Every demographic and in fact every individual have a different perception of the "accepted norms".

I wear shorts, singlet and thongs on almost every J leg I do... And I average over 50 a year.

Just because the finance broker from Melbourne wears a suit, doesn't mean the builder from Darwin has to.

I always wear "quality" clothes and vary rarely fly in work clothes.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Socities accepted norms only apply to those whom accept them. Every demographic and in fact every individual have a different perception of the "accepted norms".

I wear shorts, singlet and thongs on almost every J leg I do... And I average over 50 a year.

Just because the finance broker from Melbourne wears a suit, doesn't mean the builder from Darwin has to.

I always wear "quality" clothes and vary rarely fly in work clothes.

A singlet is a singlet regardless of the label. Your armpits won't smell any sweeter just because you're wearing an 'expensive' singlet. I wouldn't want to sit next to you on a flight.

Nobody is saying you have to wear a suit for heavens sake but there is a happy medium - what's wrong with wearing a shirt??? Not sure what you're trying to prove. It just shows that you have no respect for your fellow passengers.

Somebody dressed in shorts & thongs wouldn't get my business if I was selecting a builder for my house as how they dress is indicitive of their worth ethic & I don't want to pay a fortune to some bogan to do a half coughd job on my house.

 

[harvyk]

Socities accepted norms only apply to those whom accept them. Every demographic and in fact every individual have a different perception of the "accepted norms".

Agree 100%...

Despite how people imagine "international jet setting" to be, the reality of it is that it's public transport (yes, even F), and these days people are as likely to get dressed up to hop onto a plane, as they are to get dressed up to hop onto a local bus.

 

[Deleted member]

I often wear jeans to the office. On a no see client day. But always wear a collard shirt jacket etc. Same when flying

 

[Love2travel]

A singlet is a singlet regardless of the label. Your armpits won't smell any sweeter just because you're wearing an 'expensive' singlet. I wouldn't want to sit next to you on a flight.

Nobody is saying you have to wear a suit for heavens sake but there is a happy medium - what's wrong with wearing a shirt??? Not sure what you're trying to prove. It just shows that you have no respect for your fellow passengers.

Somebody dressed in shorts & thongs wouldn't get my business if I was selecting a builder for my house as how they dress is indicitive of their worth ethic & I don't want to pay a fortune to some bogan to do a half coughd job on my house.

My partner is a builder who builds high end homes and townhouse developments in Melbourne's Eastern Suburbs. He is also a carpenter so is on the tools also. The developers that want him to work for him have a 12 month wait. They are willing to wait due to the quality of his workmanship. He wears a tshirt and CAT cargos to work. One of his mates on the other hand is a chippy who would wear G-STAR jeans and Dior sunnies on the site. That mate whilst he is well dressed, I wouldn't let anywhere near MY construction site. It would seem that you can get your builders license from a cereal box these days and those well dressed builders probably wouldn't even know how to turn on a drop saw, let alone identify if their tradie is out of tolerance.

In saying that, my partner would never catch a plane in his work clothes. Most likely a nice pair of jeans or say Abercrombie cargos.

 

[TonyHancock]

....my partner would never catch a plane in his work clothes. Most likely a nice pair of jeans or say Abercrombie cargos.

Kinda proves ozbeachbabe's post then!

 

[greenfish]

Not the QP, but the dress standard listed on a J class Virgin Ticket:

DRESS STANDARDS
Virgin Australia requires all Guests to conform to minimum dress standards on all flights. All Guests must wear footwear (thongs are
acceptable), shorts/pants/skirts or similar, and shirts (singlets are acceptable). Clothing displaying offensive language or symbols must not be
worn.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Socities accepted norms only apply to those whom accept them. Every demographic and in fact every individual have a different perception of the "accepted norms".

I wear shorts, singlet and thongs on almost every J leg I do... And I average over 50 a year.

Just because the finance broker from Melbourne wears a suit, doesn't mean the builder from Darwin has to.

I always wear "quality" clothes and vary rarely fly in work clothes.

I think this has just proven my point.

 

[Love2travel]

Kinda proves ozbeachbabe's post then!

Tony, the only time he would suit up is for weddings, christenings et al. I suppose if he wanted to be a suit, he would have become a project manager. Besides, there is only enough room for one designer loving princess in our relationship!

 

[amaroo]

If we expell blokes in singlets we also need to drop the things that wear their little sisters muffin tops....some of those make your eyes hurt.

 

[Longrass]

A singlet is a singlet regardless of the label. Your armpits won't smell any sweeter just because you're wearing an 'expensive' singlet. I wouldn't want to sit next to you on a flight.

Nobody is saying you have to wear a suit for heavens sake but there is a happy medium - what's wrong with wearing a shirt??? Not sure what you're trying to prove. It just shows that you have no respect for your fellow passengers.

Somebody dressed in shorts & thongs wouldn't get my business if I was selecting a builder for my house as how they dress is indicitive of their worth ethic & I don't want to pay a fortune to some bogan to do a half coughd job on my house.

You seem to have gone on a sideways tangent to describe someones work ethic in relation to their clothing choices whilst flying. The discussion at hand revolves around the way an individual wishes to dress whilst flying on public transport.

Gone are the days of smoking jackets in the Captain Cook bar or the Helicopter transfers for F class pax in Hong Kong.

If someone wants to wear casual clothing in J, they should be allowed.

Regardless of whether you would want to sit next to a paying J pax whom adorns a singlet and shorts is totally your choice.

However on a full flight, I dare say your request would see you stuck in the seat next to me, with a sad face, tight suit and tomato juice spilt on your nice white blouse.

What is it with all this winging?

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Tony, the only time he would suit up is for weddings, christenings et al. I suppose if he wanted to be a suit, he would have become a project manager. Besides, there is only enough room for one designer loving princess in our relationship!

I don't think I can ever recall meeting a project manager in a suit. The ones I've seen are usually in long pants & either a short or long sleeved chambray type shirt.

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Gone are the days of smoking jackets in the Captain Cook bar or the Helicopter transfers for F class pax in Hong Kong.

If someone wants to wear casual clothing in J, they should be allowed.

Regardless of whether you would want to sit next to a paying J pax whom adorns a singlet and shorts is totally your choice.

However on a full flight, I dare say your request would see you stuck in the seat next to me, with a sad face, tight suit and tomato juice spilt on your nice white blouse.

What is it with all this winging?

Your comparisons with peoples' standard of dress go from the sublime to the ridiculous - I don't think anybody who did a helicopter transfer in HKG or JFK ever wore a smokng jacket (well maybe Hugh Hefner), however I'm sure they didn't wear thongs, stubbies & a singlet either which IMHO is not casual clothing but deserves its own category.

There is a thing called middle ground. For males, my interpretation of casual clothing would be a shirt of some sort, whether a t-shirt, sports shirt or collared shirt, jeans, cargo pants or cargo shorts & footwear - sandals with straps, runners or closed shoes.

I wouldn't fly in a suit or white blouse either but clothing I would call smart casual but again in my book this does not mean shorts, singlet or thongs.

I wouldn't say it's a whinge, just a legitimate gripe.

My definition of a whinge would be doing fifty something J class flights ex DRW a year & still being SG. :shock:

 

[medhead]

Of course in business the serviettes have a button hole that allows them to be attached to a blouse and hence absorb spillage of tomato juice before it gets to said blouse. I can see how one might not be aware of this feature if wearing singlets when flying.


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