General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[OZDUCK]

Fairly brief report on the BBC. But at least it appears that the illness reported was not of sufficient concern to stop the trials.

Coronavirus: Oxford University to resume vaccine trial after pause

The late-stage trials were paused due to a reported side effect in a patient in the UK.

www.bbc.com

 

[dajop]

There was a report a few days ago (ABC??) where they interviewed tourist operators in WA turning away bookings because they couldn't get staff.

Probably a few Melburnians would be keen for a job. But assuming they are allowed in, the cost of quarantine and airfares would be a big disincentive on top of job keeper/jobseeker.

 

[drron]

There are signs Covid might be peaking world wide.Daily new cases are plateauing.
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[Pushka]

Fairly brief report on the BBC. But at least it appears that the illness reported was not of sufficient concern to stop the trials.

Coronavirus: Oxford University to resume vaccine trial after pause

The late-stage trials were paused due to a reported side effect in a patient in the UK.

www.bbc.com

And that the illness was unrelated.

Oxford University vaccine resumes trials after illness hiccup
The paused Oxford University coronavirus clinical vaccine trials have resumed after an illness connected to a participant was found to not be caused by the jab.

Post automatically merged: Sep 13, 2020

There are signs Covid might be peaking world wide.Daily new cases are plateauing.
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Does the headline say something different though?

 

[drron]

Does the headline say something different though?

Indeed it does.But I prefer an optimistic outlook whilst they have a pessimistic outlook.
Sure you can look at the plateau and worry it hasn't turned down or be happy that the number of new cases each day is no longer going up.

 

[NM]

Indeed it does.But I prefer an optimistic outlook whilst they have a pessimistic outlook.
Sure you can look at the plateau and worry it hasn't turned down or be happy that the number of new cases each day is no longer going up.

or are we seeing a saturation of testing capacity/capability in the regions experiencing the most recent rapid increases (e.g. India, Indonesia etc.)?

 

[OZDUCK]

It does seem that the rate of infection is actually still rising. India, Brazil and the USA, which seems to be suffering another uptick over the last few days, had the biggest increases.

Coronavirus: WHO reports record daily rise in new infections

The largest increases in new infections were reported in India, the US and Brazil, the agency said.

www.bbc.com

 

[NM]

It does seem that the rate of infection is actually still rising. India, Brazil and the USA, which seems to be suffering another uptick over the last few days, had the biggest increases.

Coronavirus: WHO reports record daily rise in new infections

The largest increases in new infections were reported in India, the US and Brazil, the agency said.

www.bbc.com

The UK, Spain, Argentina and Indonesia are all on the rise (initial curve, or again), with significant numbers. Many places are far from being under control.

 

[jeza]

Israel has also gone back into a lockdown scenario.

 

[dajop]

There are signs Covid might be peaking world wide.Daily new cases are plateauing.
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Worth noting the context for the graph, particular SE Asia is different to what we would normally think of as SE Asia ....

Western Pacific includes Oceania, China, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, whilst
South East Asia includes Thailand, Indonesia, India, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Bhutan, Nepal, East Timor .... and North Korea.

 

[p--and--t]

Israel has also gone back into a lockdown scenario.

So many countries bouncing in and out. Hoping all our jurisdictions in AU can work both independently & cooperatively to stop further waves in Australia. (And restrain the political point scoring).

We are going to have to live with this for at least 2 years so effective more or less uniform and easily understood consistant measures need to be in place to allow reduced risk of movement both throughout the nation and internationally.

 

[Lynda2475]

So I have been asked to attend the office tomorrow, apart from a brief visit to grab something from my locker back in June, haven't worked there sine mid March.

Our regional offices (in NSW and Queensland) have been open for about 3 weeks with voluntary attendance - these are offices (one is actually in Sydney outer burbs) which have small workforce, parking (so need to take PT).

Our Sydney Head office reopened with limits this week - 4 floors (out of 20) are open but only collaboration (larger meeting) rooms with strict people limits and a subset of desks are available - all have to be booked for a full day (no change of usage during the day). We used to hot desk, my floor is not open for use but I am allowed to go there briefly to access locker if needed, but must not linger as except for the open 4 floors the air con is turned off and no cleaning services.

Have had to do a special return to office online course, will have to check in and out, 2 people per lift and have to wear a mask in lifts (but not at desk). Prinetrs have been changed to one touch, i.e. swipe your card and anything in the queue from your account will print all at once (no more selecting items to print from touch screen), extra hand sanitiser stations, wipes to clean down desk every couple of hours (with professional clean over night).

Im not thrilled to be going, but will use it as an opportunity to print some stuff (no printer at home) and grab last of my personal stuff from locker, in case im redundant in a few weeks. Will report back tomorrow night on how it was.

 

[drron]

A paper on lung abnormalities post Covid.

Months After Recovery, COVID-19 Survivors Often Have Persistent Lung Trouble

The pandemic has already claimed far too many lives in the U.S. and around the world. Fortunately, as doctors have gained more experience at treating COVID-19, more people who have been hospitalize…

directorsblog.nih.gov

However reading the complete paper shows that the abnormalities aren't severe.

Follow-up study of the pulmonary function and related physiological characteristics of COVID-19 survivors three months after recovery

The long-term pulmonary function and related physiological characteristics of COVID-19 survivors have not been studied in depth, thus many aspects are not understood.COVID-19 survivors were recruited for high resolution computed tomography (HRCT) of the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More reports on things that are associated by more severe disease.

Study finds substance use disorders linked to COVID-19 susceptibility

A retrospective case-control study in Molecular Psychiatry has found that individuals with substance use disorders (SUD), especially individuals with opioid use disorders (OUD) and African Americans, are at increased risk for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and its adverse outcomes.According...

dgalerts.docguide.com

Elevated Clotting Factor V Levels Linked to Worse Outcomes in Severe COVID-19 Infections

Patients hospitalised with severe coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) who have high levels of the blood clotting protein factor V are at elevated risk for serious injury from blood clots such as deep vein thrombosis or pulmonary embolism, according to a study published in the American Journal of...

dgnews.docguide.com

But in medicine we love to have a way to score our predictions and one now for Covid.

4C mortality score predicts mortality in hospitalised patients with COVID-19; study

By Denise BaezNEW YORK -- September 15, 2020 -- An easy-to-use risk stratification score, dubbed the 4C (Coronavirus Clinical Characterisation Consortium) Mortality Score, can be used to accurately categorise patients hospitalised with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) as being at low...

dgalerts.docguide.com

 

[drron]

More on the treatment of Covid.First a biologic used to treat Rheumatoid Arthritis has some benefit.

Welcome to Precision Vaccinations

Precision Vaccinations publishes vaccine news patients can trust to make informed immunization decisions in partnership with doctors, nurses, and pharmacists.

www.coronavirustoday.com

And a trial using monoclonal antibodies designed to fight Covid is starting.

https://www.coronavirustoday.com/phase-3-study-evaluate-coronavirus-antibody-coughtail-uk?s=en

Next the paper by a Hong Kong rearcher alleging the virus was manufactured.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

USA going the right way at last but Europe heading in the wrong direction.
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[TheRealTMA]

Liberal MP Craig Kelly's hydroxychloroquine claims should be removed from social media, regulator says

ACMA says social media companies would be expected to remove harmful material about health under proposed codes of conduct

www.theguardian.com

 

[Flashback]

More on the treatment of Covid.First a biologic used to treat Rheumatoid Arthritis has some benefit.

Welcome to Precision Vaccinations

Precision Vaccinations publishes vaccine news patients can trust to make informed immunization decisions in partnership with doctors, nurses, and pharmacists.

www.coronavirustoday.com

And a trial using monoclonal antibodies designed to fight Covid is starting.

https://www.coronavirustoday.com/phase-3-study-evaluate-coronavirus-antibody-coughtail-uk?s=en

Next the paper by a Hong Kong rearcher alleging the virus was manufactured.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

USA going the right way at last but Europe heading in the wrong direction.
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I've found it interesting that in some of the smaller towns in Mallorca we've visited everyone has been wearing masks all the time e.g. even when walking around outside etc. I believe extra measures are being implemented on a region by region basis here. In general it's like a ghost town here. Lots of hotels closed, restaurants closed etc. We had to settle for Burger King last night...

 

[Flashback]

I've found it interesting that in some of the smaller towns in Mallorca we've visited everyone has been wearing masks all the time e.g. even when walking around outside etc. I believe extra measures are being implemented on a region by region basis here. In general it's like a ghost town here. Lots of hotels closed, restaurants closed etc. We had to settle for Burger King last night...

Confirmed today, we were in another area and were told off by the Guardia Civil. Given a warning and told if we weren't wearing it outside too it'd be a €10 fine each. Lesson learned........

 

[Pushka]

I am so not guilty of this:

An Adelaide wastewater analysis has revealed South Australians drank significantly less () during the strict COVID-19 lockdown, despite suggestions people drank more while heavy restrictions were in place.

 

[serfty]

I am so not guilty of this:

An Adelaide wastewater analysis has revealed South Australians drank significantly less () during the strict COVID-19 lockdown, despite suggestions people drank more while heavy restrictions were in place.

The media put out the headlines that suit their narrative.

Sales at Bottle Shops go up? Ergo people are drinking more. There's no mention that drinking at restaurants/pubs/clubs is almost non existent.

 

[Pushka]

The media put out the headlines that suit their narrative.

Sales at Bottle Shops go up? Ergo people are drinking more. There's no mention that drinking at restaurants/pubs/clubs is almost non existent.

Although pubs use the same sewer so maybe? I doubt it. I don't know of anyone this applies to.