General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Princess Fiona]

And in case you needed anymore reason to get vaccinated with any of the vaccines available right now in Australia.
Recent cases from San Diego. The Orange line is the unvaccinated.

 

[Pushka]

And in case you needed anymore reason to get vaccinated with any of the vaccines available right now in Australia.
Recent cases from San Diego. The Orange line is the unvaccinated. View attachment 255162

Why oh why doesn't our Fed Government start hammering home these statistics. Even with the deaths in Australia there is not even a murmer these deaths were in unvaccinated people. In the main the deaths were from very senior citizens so should have had the option to be vaccinated by now.

 

[drron]

And here are the Stats of disease incidence in the 5 least vaccinated US States v the 5 most vaccinated States.

 

[burmans]

Why oh why doesn't our Fed Government start hammering home these statistics. Even with the deaths in Australia there is not even a murmer these deaths were in unvaccinated people. In the main the deaths were from very senior citizens so should have had the option to be vaccinated by now.

Probably because most people these days think (correctly in my view) the Fed Government is irrelevant to management of Coronavirus and have tuned out. Mentioned every day (frequently many many times) in the NSW press conferences.

 

[Pushka]

Probably because most people these days think (correctly in my view) the Fed Government is irrelevant to management of Coronavirus and have tuned out. Mentioned every day (frequently many many times) in the NSW press conferences.

Interesting thought. Sounds feasible. Sadly, it's crickets here in SA but NSW and Vic are the ones who count.

 

[drron]

Some interesting results with treatment for covid.
In Brazil those who had had their flu vaccine recently had less severe outcomes if they picked up covid.

Inactivated trivalent influenza vaccination is associated with lower mortality among patients with COVID-19 in Brazil | BMJ Evidence-Based Medicine

ebm.bmj.com

Another article that shows higher antibody levels against the delta variant if there had been previous covid infection or a breakthrough infection.

Study suggests relatively higher neutralising response against Delta variant in vaccinated individuals with breakthrough or prior COVID-19 infection

Findings from a study published in the Journal of Travel Medicine demonstrated that individuals with prior coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection who received one dose or two doses of Covishield vaccine as well as individuals with breakthrough COVID-19 infection had relatively higher...

dgalerts.docguide.com

Subcutaneous REGEN-COV prevents infection in household contacts of covid positive people.

Subcutaneous REGEN-COV prevented SARS-CoV-2 infection in household contacts of infected individuals: Study

Subcutaneous REGEN-COV, a combination of the monoclonal antibodies casirivimab and imdevimab, prevented symptomatic and asymptomatic severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection in previously uninfected household contacts of infected persons, according to a study...

dgalerts.docguide.com

 

[Matt_01]

I do feel for those in MEL who are in another lock down with curfews however I was amused at this new rule "No removal of masks to drink alcohol" does this mean drinking straws will become the new panic buying item

 

[Must...Fly!]

I do feel for those in MEL who are in another lock down with curfews however I was amused at this new rule "No removal of masks to drink alcohol" does this mean drinking straws will become the new panic buying item

Sure, and I've got just the mask for it

 

[Lat34]

I do feel for those in MEL who are in another lock down with curfews however I was amused at this new rule "No removal of masks to drink alcohol" does this mean drinking straws will become the new panic buying item

Just recently a local older couple were drinking takeaway fresh juice with masks intact, through straws, while sitting by themselves on a standalone seat. Clearly forward thinking!

 

[ethernet]

Taking Pifzer is better than nothing. I saw a graph indicating for the un-vaccinated --- acute kidney disease is 172 per 100K (zero in vaccinated), but nothing about details or permanency . The community cost of people with kidney problems is mega high, especially if young. I also hear V02 levels are less for those who get covid before vaccination. None of these side effects are put on TV. Pifzer induced Lymphedema is observed, and injections should be given on the other side.

I have a new idea for an ad - bring back 'Wherrrreee do you get it' to find your local jab station.

Reflecting on my own Covid vaccination certificate, I now find it offensive to lacking. What is needed is to be able to print it out in other national languages to increase community acceptance. Halve the font size and whitespace, and you could fit 3 languages. Also, I think it should say what you took, or let you add it, or skin it with a passport like photo - optional. When flying resumes, there will be red tape. So a QR code on it as well.

 

[Pushka]

Taking Pifzer is better than nothing. I saw a graph indicating for the un-vaccinated --- acute kidney disease is 172 per 100K (zero in vaccinated), but nothing about details or permanency . The community cost of people with kidney problems is mega high, especially if young. I also hear V02 levels are less for those who get covid before vaccination. None of these side effects are put on TV. Pifzer induced Lymphedema is observed, and injections should be given on the other side.

I have a new idea for an ad - bring back 'Wherrrreee do you get it' to find your local jab station.

Reflecting on my own Covid vaccination certificate, I now find it offensive to lacking. What is needed is to be able to print it out in other national languages to increase community acceptance. Halve the font size and whitespace, and you could fit 3 languages. Also, I think it should say what you took, or let you add it, or skin it with a passport like photo - optional. When flying resumes, there will be red tape. So a QR code on it as well.

The ability to edit makes it vulnerable to forgery. Possibly the travel iteration will have the QR code I believe I read somewhere.

 

[ethernet]

The ability to edit makes it vulnerable to forgery. Possibly the travel iteration will have the QR code I believe I read somewhere.

If anyone is stupid to flash a forgery, it is just a matter of time before they are caught, and forgery and deception carry a higher penalty than outright theft. And exposure to civil action allowing patrons to be banned from entry or directly sued. The numbers are big enough to be picked up by security cameras that can also do face recognition, height and gait signatures. I presume there will information sharing. Israel now needs 3 shots. So I was correct in stating what and when the doses were given is important, if WA will demand papers and passport going forward.

 

[Pushka]

If anyone is stupid to flash a forgery, it is just a matter of time before they are caught, and forgery and deception carry a higher penalty than outright theft. And exposure to civil action allowing patrons to be banned from entry or directly sued. The numbers are big enough to be picked up by security cameras that can also do face recognition, height and gait signatures. I presume there will information sharing. Israel now needs 3 shots. So I was correct in stating what and when the doses were given is important, if WA will demand papers and passport going forward.

And all of that info (dates received etc) is on the certificate including the recent update to the AZ name.

 

[Lynda2475]

Some schools being proactive in testing staff and students safe

‘Real sense of security’: Sydney school embracing daily nasal swabs

amp.smh.com.au

 

[Must...Fly!]

Three quarters of Covid patients under-50 in hospital are unvaccinated

Nearly three quarters of Covid hospital patients aged under 50 are unvaccinated, figures have revealed.

www.standard.co.uk

Get vaccinated!

 

[drron]

Another effect due to Covid plus lockdown.Bali monkeys going hungry.

With no tourist handouts, hungry Bali monkeys raid homes

Deprived of their preferred food source — the bananas, peanuts and other goodies brought in by tourists now kept away by the coronavirus — hungry monkeys on the resort island of Bali have taken to raiding villagers’ homes in their search for something tasty.

apnews.com

 

[Princess Fiona]

This is great news. Research from Bangladesh
(RCT) showing that surgical mask wearing led to a significant drop in symptomatic covid infections in the vulnerable over 60 years group. 1in 3 infections were prevented.
Poverty Action

 

[Pushka]

Another effect due to Covid plus lockdown.Bali monkeys going hungry.

With no tourist handouts, hungry Bali monkeys raid homes

Deprived of their preferred food source — the bananas, peanuts and other goodies brought in by tourists now kept away by the coronavirus — hungry monkeys on the resort island of Bali have taken to raiding villagers’ homes in their search for something tasty.

apnews.com

And they are aggressive at the best of times.

 

[burmans]

This is great news. Research from Bangladesh
(RCT) showing that surgical mask wearing led to a significant drop in symptomatic covid infections in the vulnerable over 60 years group. 1in 3 infections were prevented.
Poverty Action
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Aside from one sector of the population with a bent to publishing rubbish didn’t we already know this many times over from previous research!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Aside from one sector of the population with a bent to publishing rubbish didn’t we already know this many times over from previous research!

Though many of those were by studying say the spraying various droplets etc(ie not an actual virus), or were based on other diseases.

This was a large study based on actual Covid cases in the community.