General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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Agree, freedom of choice does not mean you are free from the repercussions of that choice!
He can be our PM. Love it. Mind you under his rules I wouldn't be allowed our because I am in the QLD queue and have been for ages.
 

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Fake news I think. He certainly gave an address along these lines a couple of days ago, but I don't think this was it
Well a lot of what that quote attributed to him appears not to be "fake news". This article from Reuters seems to contain all the major points raised in that quote. The France24 & BBC articles also seem to contain the same sort of information. Whether his rhetoric was quite as high flown as the quote is possibly in doubt but not the final message.



 

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Well a lot of what that quote attributed to him appears not to be "fake news". This article from Reuters seems to contain all the major points raised in that quote. The France24 & BBC articles also seem to contain the same sort of information. Whether his rhetoric was quite as high flown as the quote is possibly in doubt but not the final message.




In fact that quote does seem to be at least a good paraphrase of what he said. In his official Twitter account he certainly refers back to Pasteur and the enlightenment. The thrust of the matter seems to be that while vaccination will not be compulsory if you want to go anywhere or do anything you will need to be vaccinated.


Je l’ai dit, je le répète : le vaccin ne sera pas obligatoire. Ayons confiance en nos chercheurs et médecins. Nous sommes le pays des Lumières et de Pasteur, la raison et la science doivent nous guider

(I have said it again: the vaccine will not be compulsory. Let us have confidence in our researchers and doctors. We are the land of enlightenment and Pasteur, reason and science must guide us)

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La vaccination sera rendue obligatoire d’ici le 15 septembre pour tous les soignants et les personnels d’hôpitaux, cliniques, maisons de retraite, établissements pour personnes handicapées et pour ceux travaillant au contact des personnes âgées ou fragiles, y compris à domicile.

(Vaccination will be made compulsory by September 15 for all caregivers and staff in hospitals, clinics, retirement homes, establishments for disabled people and for those working in contact with the elderly or frail, including at home.)
 
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Do you have a source for that?
Fake news I think


It was (I thought ...clearly) a facebook screenshot …that came from a friends timeline that came from …who cares...
Attempting to validate any published words from anyone anywhere these days is a mugs game… even the media no longer bother.
If the words resonated with anyone, my posting was not in vain .
 

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With the number of infections they have had India must be approaching herd immunity levels.
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Having a mental illness is associated with a higher risk of covid.

Eric Clapton against vaccine privileges.Won't play to vaccinated only audiences.

But the US NFL making it hard for unvaccinated players taking the field.
 

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France is getting ever more serious about restrictions on people who refuse to be vaccinated.

To quote: “A freedom where I don’t owe anything to anyone doesn’t exist,” Mr. Macron told reporters at a hospital in Tahiti, one of the islands. “What is your liberty worth if you tell me you don’t want to get vaccinated? And tomorrow, you infect your father, your mother or myself. I am a victim of your freedom.”

 

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UK cases starting to drop off again, hopefully the hospitalisations & deaths will similarly decrease soon. Interesting graphic about spikes in cases after each Euro Cup match the England participated in.

If the link below says you need to subscribe to read the article try googling "why are covid cases falling in the uk" & opening the link from the search results.

 
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It would be interesting to understand drivers of infection in the UK. Agree on large sporting events but large numbers of people in crowded nightclubs can’t help either!
 
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Quite a few drivers of infection in the recent US surge due to delta variant.From july 4th.
The report cited the COVID-19 Provincetown outbreak during the July 4 weekend, where more than 900 people were infected with COVID-19 as of Friday, some with the delta variant. Among those living in Massachusetts, 74% of them were fully vaccinated, yet officials said the majority reported mild symptoms of the disease. Seven people were hospitalized.

To summer camps.
All of the infected campers are under the age of 11. So far, none of the camp's vaccinated campers, aged 12 and up, have returned a positive test. Only four campers who are of the appropriate age to be vaccinated have not done so, CNN reports.

None of the camp's 275 staff members have tested positive for the virus. Fewer than 10 are unvaccinated.



And to a terrible story of a nursing home outbreak.
Two months ago, a health director in upstate New York received a call from a hotel owner worried that nursing home staffers living at his hotel were spreading COVID-19.


Brought in from other parts of the state or country, some employees of the Grand Rehabilitation and Nursing at Barnwell, a 235-bed nursing home in Valatie, were living at the Comfort Inn and Suites in Castleton while they worked at the facility. Some were sick, but they weren’t isolating, the hotel owner reported.
Then, in May, an outbreak of COVID-19 cases which appears to have been among the largest nationwide in a nursing home that month swept through the facility often known locally as Barnwell. That month, 12 staff members and 20 residents tested positive for the virus, according a Barnwell spokesman, county health officials and data the facility reported to federal regulators. Two residents died in the nursing home and one died later at the hospital, officials said.

But all's well as Pfizer is making a motza.
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Pandemic snapshot : 05/08/21.

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The latest daily positive number is 648 702 cases

Israel has the highest fully vaccination rates at 62.21 %

Current covid positive graph for Israel :

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Yeah, but as has been reported elsewhere the number of deaths is considerably reduced in Israel (though still a slight uptick recently) so not sure cases has the same relevance as before. If we are going to "live with Covid" its hospitilisations and deaths that will matter.

Worldwide, yes cases still matter given the worlds overall low vaccination rate.
 

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