Two differing points of view re booster shots.Israel says soon,US says maybe likely
As Israel continues to register a high number of daily cases, the Health Ministry opens up third vaccine shot for immunocompromised patients.www.jpost.com
WASHINGTON (AP) — Pfizer says it plans to meet with top U.S. health officials Monday to discuss the drugmaker’s request for federal authorization of a third dose of its COVID-19 vaccine as President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser acknowledged that "it is entirely conceivable, maybe likely”...apnews.com
Note in the USA only 48% are fully vaccinated.
National level statistics don't tell the whole storyIndeed if people bothered to read the ATAGI reports instead of just the media grabs it has never said AZ is an ineffective or inferior vaccine.The recommendation for Pfizer first for under 50s then for under 60s was based on an assessment of risk of covid v risk of blood clots.If there was an outbreak of large numbers the recommendation was always going to change.The Sydney outbreak brings that message home in a grim fashion.More people have now died in this outbreak than from the clots.
Then for the people who believe the US is doing so much better than us in the vaccine rollout.
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The daily numbers of vaccine jabs started to decline when the fully vaccinated numbers reached 25%.
Paywalled but I'm certainly angry with 60+ people who are at no more risk than anyone else refusing to be vaccinated with AZ. The excuses I'm hearing on SA Health FB page are just nonsensical. I have gout. I have high blood pressure. I am being discriminated because of age. I want a choice. Blah blah.This is the sort of response that may occur in Australia if a significant portion of the population refuse to be vaccinated. It is beginning to cause a lot of angst among those in the US who are vaccinated and want a return to a somewhat 'normal' lifestyle.
As Virus Cases Rise, Another Contagion Spreads Among the Vaccinated: Anger
Paywalled but I'm certainly angry with 60+ people who are at no more risk than anyone else refusing to be vaccinated with AZ. The excuses I'm hearing on SA Health FB page are just nonsensical. I have gout. I have high blood pressure. I am being discriminated because of age. I want a choice. Blah blah.
Quite balanced coming from himAn interesting article from Piers Morgan who got covid after being vaccinated and the threats from anti-vaxxers that he recived by urging people to be vaccinated.
To win the war on covid, we need to go to war on the anti-vaxxers - shut them down, get them off the airwaves, ban them from social media, and urgently re-educate their brainwashed followers.www.dailymail.co.uk
Well I have no power whatsoever to implement additional health care costs to non vaccinated, nor prevent border closures when people put themselves at risk, when the nation pauses for a death of an elderly non vaccinated person, when people refuse to listen to medical advice yet those who have taken responsibility all get lumped in the same way then I’ll get angry.Non-paywalled copy I guess.
As coronavirus cases resurge across the country, many inoculated Americans are losing patience with vaccine holdouts who, they say, are neglecting a civic duty or clinging to conspiracy theories and misinformation even as new patients arrive in emergency rooms and the nation renews mask...www.yahoo.com
Anger doesn't help the situation. Half the article is about people being angry. It just promotes a me v them - or right v wrong discussion, which in the current situation is not helpful.
There was some good constructive passages, which I will extract.
On Monday, Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York City ordered that all municipal workers be vaccinated against COVID-19 by the time schools reopen in mid-September or face weekly testing. Officials in California followed suit hours later with a similar mandate covering all state employees and health care workers.
(My comment: its something Australian officials should consider - if you are unvaccinated in say 2022 and get positive from the routine testing, you need to access personal sick leave (for the 14 days isolation) or go leave without pay and no access to the pandemic financial supports.)
She suggested health insurers link coverage of hospital bills to immunization. “If you choose not to be part of the solution, then you should be accountable for the consequences,” she said.
(My comment: many have suggested Medicare surcharge, but I don't know how that would work for low income families/earners)
Though often seen as a conservative phenomenon [in the US], vaccine hesitancy and refusal occur across the political and cultural spectrum in the United States, and for a variety of reasons. No single argument can address all of these concerns, and changing minds is often a slow, individualized process.
Rising resentment among the vaccinated may well lead to public support for more coercive requirements, including mandates, but experts warn that punitive measures and social ostracism can backfire, shutting down dialogue and outreach efforts.
“Anything that reduces the opportunity for honest dialogue and an opportunity for persuasion is not a good thing,” said Stephen Thomas, a professor of health policy and management at University of Maryland School of Public Health. “We are already in isolated, siloed information systems, where people are in their own echo chambers.”
Gentle persuasion and persistent prodding persuaded Dorrett Denton, a 62-year-old home health aide in Queens, to be vaccinated in February. Her employer urged Denton repeatedly to be immunized, but in the end, it was her doctor who convinced her.
“She says to me: ‘You’ve been coming to me from 1999. How many times did I do surgery on you, and your life was in my hands? You trust me with your life, don’t you?’” Denton recalled.
“I said, ‘Yes, Doctor.’ She said, ‘Well, trust me on this one.’”
One of the little ones in the HFF household/extended family watches Daniel Tiger.Well I have no power whatsoever to implement additional health care costs to non vaccinated, nor prevent border closures when people put themselves at risk, when the nation pauses for a death of an elderly non vaccinated person, when people refuse to listen to medical advice yet those who have taken responsibility all get lumped in the same way then I’ll get angry.
NSW authorities indicated that their weekly vaccine capacity is 350,000
But the USA would seem to have issues that don’t necessarily exist here. It has been politicised to a huge degree, with a large part of one side of politics believing it’s all a hoax, or perhaps that their version of god won’t let them catch it. Whilst I don’t necessarily like our politicians all that much, none seem to be as utterly divisive as their last president, and as best I can tell, most of ours are one board with the idea of vaccination. There may be one particular person from Qld who isn’t, but then she didn’t listen to the explanation.This is the sort of response that may occur in Australia if a significant portion of the population refuse to be vaccinated. It is beginning to cause a lot of angst among those in the US who are vaccinated and want a return to a somewhat 'normal' lifestyle.
The good thing about the current Sydney outbreak is the increase in vaccine urgency with some small ripples in the rest of Australia.