Full Body Scanners - Who has an issue being scanned?

Do you have an issue with the full body scanners?


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Well I have voted yes to this poll for completely unscientific reasons just so Medhead cant object,though I am sure he will.;)
Until last week I had been through 7 US airports without having to go through a scanner or have a pat down.Last week in DFW I entered a scanner but it wouldn't work,so out and through the metal detector.
Yesterday for the first time at MCO went through a working scanner-no problems.
Today at C terminal DFW I went through again but this time had to have the pat down as well.BTW not taken aside but done where you exit the scanner hence holding everyone up.The TSA agent was a very large African American-I did not get a chance to nominate sex of my Patter downer.He first asked if I had a knee brace on-yes,right knee only.So I got the lower body pat down.Then he asked if I had a large chain on-No.So he said he would have to pat down my chest which he proceeded to do.Then came the moment that convinced me we should never have these scanners-
"Oh,just your man coughs"Well!:shock::shock::shock:
So that's it.however why pulled up in DFW and not MCO the day before-really inconsistent which makes me doubt their efficiency.
And at both MCO the priority security line led to a scanner,non priority led to either a scanner or metal detector.So why do they make more frequent flyers expose themselves to more irradiation no matter how small,remembering that these people are already expopsed to higher levels just by flying.Now if we can prove frequent flyers eat more bananas then triple whammy!:p
 
Been scanned a few times.....compared to getting manhandled by a 400 lb gorilla with a disinterested & unpleasant demeanour - I'd say it's a positive.

Sometimes you get lucky & cop both :confused: makes you wonder what they are looking for or at :!:
 
Article and quote from Albo suggests you can but may be refused travel unless you have a medical condition exempting you from scanning.
I'm not that bothered as long as its handled efficiently.
 
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Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

Interesting experience when I chose to "opt out" at SFO last year...the "patting down" officer was more nervous than me!
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

Don't care overall.

Apart from one experience when I was patted down due to something suspicious on the scan, to me they are simple and quick. Saves going through moronic metal detectors which are tuned differently every day - so one day my belt will register, one day a pair of shoes might register but on other days neither occurs.

If some faceless dude or lass wants to check out a fuzzy outline of "my bits", meh. They could get the same image if they stared or covertly checked out my crotch.

As for the radiation exposure, again don't care. I will die from something - I doubt it will be radiation exposure. And as I've sworn to never have children, I really don't care whether radiation affects my ability to reproduce.
 
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Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

No problems using them.

Although once I did make a mistake at LAX i asked the guy to make sure my pancreas was in good shape while he was at it.......

Mental note, I am not the first dick to try that joke and also im not the first to get the look of death from security.
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

I don't mind if it is just showing the stick figure but if it makes it whole process quicker, than I am for it.
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

You folks not worried about unnecessary radiation? Last thing I need is another 50 x-rays a year...
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

You folks not worried about unnecessary radiation? Last thing I need is another 50 x-rays a year...

Yet people happily go to the f lounge and "pig out", and also drink copious quantities of booze. Flying itself is a radiation hazard. Like I said - radiation is the least of my health worries long term.
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

No problems using them.

Although once I did make a mistake at LAX i asked the guy to make sure my pancreas was in good shape while he was at it.......

Mental note, I am not the first dick to try that joke and also im not the first to get the look of death from security.

I have yet to find one with a sense of humour
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

As for the radiation exposure, again don't care. I will die from something - I doubt it will be radiation exposure. And as I've sworn to never have children, I really don't care whether radiation affects my ability to reproduce.

You folks not worried about unnecessary radiation? Last thing I need is another 50 x-rays a year...

Australia are installing millimeter wave backscatter scans not ionising radiation based scanners. So there is no risk from ionising radiation and no extra x-rays.

I don't mind if it is just showing the stick figure but if it makes it whole process quicker, than I am for it.

As I understand we have the stick figure version of the software.


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Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

Hope the Minister is both aware and content with a 54% false positive rate :evil:

Basically anything over 2% is a disaster and a waste of money, and will gum up the works.
Of course this can be 'fixed' by winding down the sensitivity just like the arrivals face recognition
system to a semi-insecure levels. Of course, France and Germany did it wrong, Australia is different .. .

Germany and France trials were canned because the false positive rate was too high and it caused congestion.
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Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

Apparently, Australia also had a high false positive rate to start with, and that is the reason they have delayed introduction of the technology. As I understand the false positive rate has decreased with each new version of the software. So I would say they were fully aware of the problem and have delayed introduction until it is at an acceptable level.
 
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oops, missed this thread.

started a new one here today quoting an article today that says the government has proposed legislation that removes the "pat down" option. Goes on to say that if you refuse the scanner you won't be allowed to fly. Exemptions for "serious" medical conditions, I wonder if pregnancy is considered "serious"? I also wonder what the effect of the scan is on a 1 week old foetus that hasn't been detected yet :(

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....news/no-pat-down-option-australian-36437.html
 
Re: Backscatter xray body scanners - are you in or out?

oops, missed this thread.

started a new one here today quoting an article today that says the government has proposed legislation that removes the "pat down" option. Goes on to say that if you refuse the scanner you won't be allowed to fly. Exemptions for "serious" medical conditions, I wonder if pregnancy is considered "serious"? I also wonder what the effect of the scan is on a 1 week old foetus that hasn't been detected yet :(

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....news/no-pat-down-option-australian-36437.html

Australia is using millimeter wave devices, so there is no implications for a foetus. Even if it was ionising radiation, there is only an extremely small increased risk of [-]leukeamia[/-] cancer, of the order of an extra 1/100th of a percent.

In the first 2 weeks there is no risk to the foetus from ionising radiation. The risk of organ malformation starts at 3 weeks but has a threshold that is about level of 1,000,000 of the ionising radiation scans. IQ reduction risk starts at 8 weeks and has the same threshold. Lifetime cancer risk starts in the 4th week and as mentioned has a very low risk, 1 in 17,000 after 10,000 of the scans, with ionising radiation (i.e. the type Australia is not using)
 
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If they are millimetre wave machines, then there's little issue.
 
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