Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

Princess Fiona · Oct 2, 2014

mkerr said:
don't suppose someone might be able to take another look at this flight?
looks like i'm flying sardine style

QF 1SYD 3:50p → DXB 12:35a
F1 A0 P0 J5 C0 D0 I0 U0 W7 R4 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q5 G0 E0

There you go, quiet in Y but a few PE and J seats available

mkerr · Oct 2, 2014

man thanks heaps.
worst case scenario, managed to bag 80k

rogerkambah · Oct 2, 2014

Could someone please look at availability on 3 October for CX654, BKK-HKG and CX161, HKG-SYD. Thanx.

KVS · Oct 3, 2014

rogerkambah said:
Could someone please look at availability on 3 October for CX654, BKK-HKG and CX161, HKG-SYD.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

BKK  Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
FRI  03 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
CX         700     BKK   08:20     HKG   12:10     773      J5 D5 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         708     BKK   09:20     HKG   13:15     343      J6 C6 D6 I6 W3 R3 E3 Y6 B5 H5 K5 M4 L4 V4 S3 N1 Q0 O0
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         750     BKK   11:10     HKG   15:00     333      J7 D6 I6 Y2 B2 H1 K0 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         750     BKK   11:10     HKG   15:00     333      J7 D6 I6 Y2 B2 H1 K0 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         754     BKK   12:40     HKG   16:25     333      J7 C7 D7 I7 W2 R2 E2 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M3 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q2 O2
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         754     BKK   12:40     HKG   16:25     333      J7 C7 D7 I7 W2 R2 E2 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M3 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q2 O2
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         754     BKK   12:40     HKG   16:25     333      J7 C7 D7 I7 W2 R2 E2 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M3 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q2 O2
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J3 C3 D3 I3 W0 R0 E0 Y2 B2 H1 K1 M1 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
[B]CX         654     BKK   14:55     HKG   19:10     333      J1 D1 I1 Y2 B2 H2 K2 M2 L2 S2 N2 Q2 O0
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0[/B]
CX         654     BKK   14:55     HKG   19:10     333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         712     BKK   16:10     HKG   19:55     333      J5 C5 D5 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         712     BKK   16:10     HKG   19:55     333      J3 C3 D3 I2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J3 C3 D3 I2 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         702     BKK   18:50     HKG   22:40     77W      F2 A2 J2 C2 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J2 C2 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

rogerkambah · Oct 3, 2014

KVS said:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

BKK  Bangkok Metro / Suvarnabhumi Intl TH = BKK DMK [VTBS]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
FRI  03 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
CX         700     BKK   08:20     HKG   12:10     773      J5 D5 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         708     BKK   09:20     HKG   13:15     343      J6 C6 D6 I6 W3 R3 E3 Y6 B5 H5 K5 M4 L4 V4 S3 N1 Q0 O0
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         750     BKK   11:10     HKG   15:00     333      J7 D6 I6 Y2 B2 H1 K0 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         750     BKK   11:10     HKG   15:00     333      J7 D6 I6 Y2 B2 H1 K0 M0 L0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         754     BKK   12:40     HKG   16:25     333      J7 C7 D7 I7 W2 R2 E2 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M3 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q2 O2
 -> CX     111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:10 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S1 N1 Q1 O0
CX         754     BKK   12:40     HKG   16:25     333      J7 C7 D7 I7 W2 R2 E2 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M3 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q2 O2
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         754     BKK   12:40     HKG   16:25     333      J7 C7 D7 I7 W2 R2 E2 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M3 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q2 O2
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J3 C3 D3 I3 W0 R0 E0 Y2 B2 H1 K1 M1 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
[B]CX         654     BKK   14:55     HKG   19:10     333      J1 D1 I1 Y2 B2 H2 K2 M2 L2 S2 N2 Q2 O0
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0[/B]
CX         654     BKK   14:55     HKG   19:10     333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J1 C1 D1 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         712     BKK   16:10     HKG   19:55     333      J5 C5 D5 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 -> CX     161     HKG   21:30     SYD   08:40 +1  333      J4 C4 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         712     BKK   16:10     HKG   19:55     333      J3 C3 D3 I2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J3 C3 D3 I2 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         702     BKK   18:50     HKG   22:40     77W      F2 A2 J2 C2 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     101     HKG   23:55     SYD   11:05 +1  333      J2 C2 D2 I1 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Thanx. So, I think there is not much chance of an op-up from PE to J for 2 px.

KVS · Oct 3, 2014

rogerkambah said:
Thanx. So, I think there is not much chance of an op-up from PE to J for 2 px.

On the contrary, the flight is likely overbooked, so all types of op-up scenarios are possible.

ellen10 · Oct 3, 2014

My son is on QF10 from LHR on 5 Oct, just bought his ticket earlier this week, very expensive, maybe a very full flight. Had trouble booking a seat, had to ring Qantas they even had a trouble but now has a seat booking.
Worst part is he gets into Melbourne at 21:55 but doesn't fly out to Sydney until 6am the next morning. Says he will sleep at the airport, I am not even sure he an do this.

rogerkambah · Oct 5, 2014

KVS said:
On the contrary, the flight is likely overbooked, so all types of op-up scenarios are possible.

No upgrades for this little QF Plat duck. Maybe if I'd been Marco Polo Club.........

mkerr · Oct 5, 2014

mkerr said:
man thanks heaps.
worst case scenario, managed to bag 80k

aloha from london.
got the upgrade. yay.

serfty · Oct 6, 2014

Princess Fiona said:
Indeed. I think we should buy a lottery ticket though as a J-F points upgrade has just come through

TBH, I am not surprised - it's upgrade season (being School Holidays) and QF in all likelihood have have sold many of those PE/J/F seats for economy fares.

Then it comes to those in the pecking order with upgrade requests WP1->WP->SG->PS->NB->etc., followed by op-ups if the points requests didn't do the job.

5teve · Oct 7, 2014

Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone could be so kind as to check what the probability of points upgrade may be on the following:
* QF 2 LHR-SYD 23 October 2014
* QF1 SYD-LHR 19 Nov 2014

2 pax, Gold and Silver, from Full flex Y to Business.

thanks
Steve

KVS · Oct 7, 2014

5teve said:
Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone could be so kind as to check what the probability of points upgrade may be on the following:
* QF 2 LHR-SYD 23 October 2014
* QF1 SYD-LHR 19 Nov 2014

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.5/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
THU  23 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
QF         2       LHR   21:25     SYD   06:30 +2  388      F2 A1 P0 J8 C0 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L5 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0
BA         15      LHR   21:35     SYD   06:05 +2  777      F2 A1 J7 C5 D4 R4 I3 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B6 H2 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.5/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
WED  19 Nov 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BA         16      SYD   16:25     LHR   04:50 +1  777      F5 A3 J9 C9 D9 R7 I5 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S8 N0 Q0 O9 G9
QF         1       SYD   16:50     LHR   06:20 +1  388      F6 A4 P0 J9 C9 D9 I2 U0 W9 R9 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0

5teve · Oct 7, 2014

Thanks KVS, very quick! I'm wondering does that mean a "good chance" or next to nothing? nothing in y+ and 8qantas j seats I see

OATEK · Oct 7, 2014

5teve said:
Thanks KVS, very quick! I'm wondering does that mean a "good chance" or next to nothing? nothing in y+ and 8qantas j seats I see

Expert Flyer shows for QF2 5 seats blocked in F, 7 blocked, 2 unallocated in J, and 5 blocked in Y+. So some wriggle room for upgrades, depending where you are on the status list.

KVS · Oct 7, 2014

5teve said:
Thanks KVS, very quick! I'm wondering does that mean a "good chance" or next to nothing? nothing in y+ and 8qantas j seats I see

Your chances for a points upgrade look much better on the return flight. The outbound appears to be overbooked, so there may be op-ups.

JessicaTam · Oct 7, 2014

KVS said:
Your chances for a points upgrade look much better on the return flight. The outbound appears to be overbooked, so there may be op-ups.

A bit early to tell for the return yet I would think. Good luck anyways.

smit0847 · Oct 8, 2014

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Can someone please tell me the loadings for the following TG flights? Looking to see how full the F cabin is likely to be.
29 October
SYD-BKK TG476
30 October
BKK-HKG TG606
8 November
HKG-BKK TG601
BKK-SYD TG475

get me outta here · Oct 8, 2014

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

I have not done this before ... my daughter is going to be on QF 7 SYD-DFW on 16 Oct booked in Y by her work when they get around to it.

If I put in for an upgrade for her from her account (bronze), how many points do I need to transfer to her account? J would be great, Y+ would be good too.

Or, is it a waste of time as it's all full?

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DeKa · Oct 8, 2014

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

get me outta here said:
how many points do I need to transfer to her account?

You don't need to transfer any points to her. Just get her booking reference and log into your account and process it for her.

OATEK · Oct 8, 2014

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

get me outta here said:
I have not done this before ... my daughter is going to be on QF 7 SYD-DFW on 16 Oct booked in Y by her work when they get around to it.

If I put in for an upgrade for her from her account (bronze), how many points do I need to transfer to her account? J would be great, Y+ would be good too.

Or, is it a waste of time as it's all full?

Expert Flyer returns the following: F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I3 W3 R0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 E9

Doesn't look too busy, except in W (Prem Econ). The seat maps show 8 unallocated spaces in J, and another 17 blocked. But in W, every seat is allocated so the W3 suggests they are prepared to oversell. So some op ups may reduce likelihood of upgrade. Probably worth a try though.

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