FFP+children

[Kirrils]

HI there, hey I'm new to FFP and was wondering if anyone out there can tell me can I earn FFP for my children flying with me (6, 8)? They do not have theie own FF membership #?

 

[serfty]

Hi Kirrils, welcome to AFF

Generally with FFP's, only the person themselves can earn points from flying.

Now each of you children can have their own membership and earn their own points.

 

[Homer]

They can earn you points but it's a two-step process. Firstly they need to earn the points in their own right and then transfer the points to your frequent flyer account. This transfer can only be done once a year and there is a maximum of 100,000 points each time you do it. I do this myself with our three year old (it's easy at this age because I have her PIN (insert maniacal laugh) but it might be more problematic with, say, your eight year old.

 

[NM]

They can earn you points but it's a two-step process. Firstly they need to earn the points in their own right and then transfer the points to your frequent flyer account. This transfer can only be done once a year and there is a maximum of 100,000 points each time you do it. I do this myself with our three year old (it's easy at this age because I have her PIN (insert maniacal laugh) but it might be more problematic with, say, your eight year old.

There is also a minimum points value permitted for a family transfer (assuming we are discussing Qantas FF points and accounts). So sometime its kjust not worth it if the new member (children in this case) are unlikely to earn 10,000 points any time soon.

 

[Homer]

There is also a minimum points value permitted for a family transfer (assuming we are discussing Qantas FF points and accounts). So sometime its kjust not worth it if the new member (children in this case) are unlikely to earn 10,000 points any time soon.

Good point. In our case Maggie is a plat and a solid points earner for the family coffers (at least until she's old enough to choose her own PIN) so I'm grabbin' 'em while I can...

 

[serfty]

With QFF, the minimum point transfer is 5K.

Say the OP has 20K points and the children 4K each.

The OP can transfer 5K to 6YO's account, then transfer the 9K now in the 6YO's account to the 8YO's account, giving 13K in the 8YO's account. Finally the OP can transfer that 13K to their own account giving 28K, 0 and 0 in the respective accounts.

Repeat as required after 12 months.

 

[NM]

With QFF, the minimum point transfer is 5K.

Say the OP has 20K points and the children 4K each.

The OP can transfer 5K to 6YO's account, then transfer the 9K now in the 6YO's account to the 8YO's account, giving 13K in the 8YO's account. Finally the OP can transfer that 13K to their own account giving 28K, 0 and 0 in the respective accounts.

Repeat as required after 12 months.

Ohhh, my head hurts ... Is this called points laundering?

 

[bambbbam2]

Keep in mind that anyone can join QFF for free currently by using the Woolies Everyday Rewards scheme.

 

[v8Statesman]

Ohhh, my head hurts ... Is this called points laundering?

Maybe, but it isn't turning "dirty" points into "clean" points, So can't see it as a bad thing.

 

[medhead]

Good point. In our case Maggie is a plat and a solid points earner for the family coffers (at least until she's old enough to choose her own PIN) so I'm grabbin' 'em while I can...

I would ask whether the children even need to know they have a FFP account. The answer might address the risk that they choose their own PIN.

 

[Homer]

I would ask whether the children even need to know they have a FFP account. The answer might address the risk that they choose their own PIN.

Actually I was only kidding about "stealing" points from my daughter. Perhaps I should have used a smiley, but I thought it would be obvious. If you have the right sort of relationship with your children then it should be no problem to pool points. Of course if you've got a teenage rebel on your hands then the PIN to their frequent flyer account is the least of your worries...

 

[Kirrils]

Thanks heaps for your feedback everyone, make sthe whole situation a bit cleaer. Yes probably unlikely the children will clock up enough points to justify qantas FF membership fees, however didn't know the woolies everday cards provided free membership - will look into that one!
Thank again

 

[dajop]

Yes probably unlikely the children will clock up enough points to justify qantas FF membership fees

If you know anyone who has an address outside Australia & NZ, you could foster your children out to them for a few seconds and sign them up there. Overseas members don't have to pay joining fees. Not that I would ever condone such behaviour.

 

[oz_mark]

If you know anyone who has an address outside Australia & NZ, you could foster your children out to them for a few seconds and sign them up there. Overseas members don't have to pay joining fees. Not that I would ever condone such behaviour.

As noted, Australian residents can get a free QFF account without the need for such behaviour

 

[Maca44]

Thanks heaps for your feedback everyone, make sthe whole situation a bit cleaer. Yes probably unlikely the children will clock up enough points to justify qantas FF membership fees, however didn't know the woolies everday cards provided free membership - will look into that one!
Thank again

I don't know about this because I think you have to 18 to register the Woolworths card in your name. Check C&C

 

[notzac]

I don't know about this because I think you have to 18 to register the Woolworths card in your name. Check C&C

Not that I would for a second suggest it, but does it really matter what DOB you put in on the Woolworths application?

 

[Cyclogenesis]

I paid for a QFF account for my daughter... figure I should start her earning for LTS and LTG early! We do ~5 domestic return legs where she comes along + probably at least one international... possibly more.
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[oz_mark]

I don't know about this because I think you have to 18 to register the Woolworths card in your name. Check C&C

Don't remember seeing that in the T&C's but it didn't stop my dog registering :shock:

 

[medhead]

Actually I was only kidding about "stealing" points from my daughter. Perhaps I should have used a smiley, but I thought it would be obvious.

I probably should have put a smiley as well......

 

[Maca44]

Don't remember seeing that in the T&C's but it didn't stop my dog registering :shock:

I just checked and there is nothing in the terms and conditions about age, but when you go to register your Everyday Rewards card there is a section for your date of birth, and when move your cursor over the '?' icon on the right of that section it states: “There are laws about sending age sensitive content to people under 18, which is why we need your date of birth”.

Notzac suggested that it would not matter what date of birth you put on the application, but this might conflict at some later stage (years down the track) if you used the Everyday Rewards card to join QF FF at no cost.