Dresscode in the lounges

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I did a search on the forum and found a thread back in 2003 about dresscodes in the lounges. Some of you appeared to have problems with people in shorts and thongs, or generally not looking 'smart' back then.

Do people still hold similar views in 2006? What if someone is dressed in t-shirt/shorts/thongs and has impeccable manners? Does this make a difference? And what is the definition of 'smart'? Is it subjectively defined with reference to the older generation?

Looking forward to hearing some of your thoughts...
 
kyle said:
I did a search on the forum and found a thread back in 2003 about dresscodes in the lounges. Some of you appeared to have problems with people in shorts and thongs, or generally not looking 'smart' back then.

Do people still hold similar views in 2006? What if someone is dressed in t-shirt/shorts/thongs and has impeccable manners? Does this make a difference? And what is the definition of 'smart'? Is it subjectively defined with reference to the older generation?

Looking forward to hearing some of your thoughts...
Open neck shirts are ok as long as they still look respectable, but thongs and singlets are definitely out!

On another note, personally, I think they need to scrap the deep-discount memberships offered to corporates to limit the number of people that have membership - try to reduce the numbers a bit. You know there's something wrong when there are very few people in the terminal, but the Qantas Pub is absolutely packed. Who knows, this might tidy-up the dress standards too!
 
Have never had an issue with being denied entry to a QP in shorts, t-shirts, jeans or pants.

I think it is common sense. Look like a yobbo about to cause trouble and you may be turned away.

Look like a sensible type, and you will get entry.

Note that Qantas does reseve the right to deny entry for whatever reason they choose...
 
Even though I am close to 60 I don't consider myself old fashion, especially having two kids under 12, but I still remember my father telling me that "if you look like cough you'll be treated like cough". That phrase has remained with me during my business career the same as "you never get a second chance to a good first impression". I think what you wear does effect the way people in general treat you, however, we are talking about the QF club and the T&C of the club states as follows:

10.7 Smart, casual dress standards apply at all times. Individual Qantas Club lounge managers will have discretion to alter these standards if circumstances warrant.

Guests who use the lounge are either travelling short distance for business and would therefore be well attired whereas other who use the lounge might be waiting for a long haul flight and I for one want to wear clothes that are comfortable on the flight. I also think that QP members dress for the occasion and in a holiday area it would not be uncommon for guests to wear dress shorts/ thongs etc. I don't see a problem in those areas, but I think patrons should dress accordingly in major cities. The word "smart" has many meanings but I think if you dress so as to not offend people, it is okay.
 
I really don't care what other people wear (unless it is offensive and I have never seen such in an airline lounge). I can onlhy affect what I wear, and I will always dress smartly when I visit and airline lounge.
 
Japanese safety boots should definitely be out. Deathstar holiday patrons moving out of Gold Coast or Hamilton Island may be comfortable in them BUT, they are generally returning to a destination that ain't gonna be that hot, and look like martians mixing with the suits in Melbourne, say.

The local Brisbane turf clubs have now banned JSB's in an effort to lift the dress standards, so why not the QP?
 
Like others of you, I have felt that some patrons present themselves poorly and should be refused admittance to lounges. What is extremely irritating is members (or guests?) stretching out with their feet on chairs or other patrons talking loudly on mobile phones in phone-free areas. I joined the QC years ago to get away from this type of behaviour in departure lounges.
 
Interesting topic.

When travelling domestically I am usually always in a suit and tie. But when I am travelling overseas I am usually dressed in comfortable clothes, e.g. jeans and a t-shirt or polo shirt with joggers. It is what I regard as neat casual and never seems to cause a problem for me.

I agree with the comment that the lounges are getting crowded. A few weeks back in MEL the QP was packed to the rafters around 3:00pm - I had to hunt around for about 5 minutes to find a free chair/table. :(
 
JohnK said:
Thongs or sandals. :mrgreen:

They would be Australian Safety Boots.

Not sure what Japanese Safety Boots are, but given the martian description I have an image in my mind,but I have no idea if it is the right image or not.
 
oz_mark said:
They would be Australian Safety Boots.

Not sure what Japanese Safety Boots are, but given the martian description I have an image in my mind,but I have no idea if it is the right image or not.
I've heard them called Australian Safety Boots, Japanese Safety Boots, and Chinese Safety Boots.

I also think they should be kept out of the lounge (along with their wearer).
 
Kiwi Flyer said:
Haven't heard that word in a while! I had a Kiwi friend years ago that taught me some of this lingo. Another one I remember is "Esky" - referred to as a "chilly bin" (pronounced "chully bun") in NZ. :D
 
If you're trying to enter a lounge in NZ wearing a thong on your foot then no wonder you'll get turned away :D
 
Kiwi Flyer said:
If you're trying to enter a lounge in NZ wearing a thong on your foot then no wonder you'll get turned away :D

Fortunately, this was not the image I had in my mind.
 
This is all very interesting.

No sane person (and there are lots that aren't) would go to a Qantas Club lounge (or a *A lounge for that matter) dressed as a total yob.

However, I note the comments from our Qld friends, and it's interesting to note that they are rather similar in nature. Nothing more needs to be said, I think.

:)
 
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Well, there's an interesting mix of responses.

Most of you seem to think the thongs/sandals are definitely out. What about the DKNY $400 sandal? Is that out too?

In the end, does it really matter how someone dresses if he/she is not bothering you?
 
The code says smart casual. I think most people have a reasonable idea of what that means. I do not think it means shorts and thongs.
A recent experience in Adelaide with a guy wearing football shorts and dirty running shoes, which shoes he took off, would indicate a dress standard which is unacceptable. I perceive the Qantas Club as a "business lounge" which implies a certain standard of dress and conduct.
 
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