Discussion on Ukraine situation 2022

HappyFlyerFamily

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Now appears Azovstal has been fully captured/evacuated/surrendered.

Russian forces now trying to encircle Ukrainian forces at Severodonetsk in Luhansk Oblast (Donbas).
 
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HappyFlyerFamily

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Day 94 (28/5 PM) situation summary from Institute for the Study of War

The Russian invasion of Ukraine that aimed to seize and occupy the entire country has become a desperate and bloody offensive to capture a single city in the east while defending important but limited gains in the south and east. Ukraine has twice forced Putin to define down his military objectives. Ukraine defeated Russia in the Battle of Kyiv, forcing Putin to reduce his subsequent military objectives to seizing Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in eastern Ukraine. Ukraine stopped him from achieving that aim as well, forcing him to focus on completing the seizure of Luhansk Oblast alone. Putin is now hurling men and munitions at the last remaining major population center in that oblast, Severodonetsk, as if taking it would win the war for the Kremlin. He is wrong. When the Battle of Severodonetsk ends, regardless of which side holds the city, the Russian offensive at the operational and strategic levels will likely have culminated, giving Ukraine the chance to restart its operational-level counteroffensives to push Russian forces back.
 

Cossie

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from a reddit Ukraine group

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In some nations it still hurts from Russia ... Among the ammunition that arrived in Ukraine from the Czech Republic was a rocket with the inscription "For the shot Prague Spring of 1968". The Dutch write "Revenge on MH17" on the shells. Poles sign ammunition "For Katyn!" and "For Kaczynski"
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They will probably do a Grozny, and bomb the absolute cough out of the place. Civilian casualties, just collateral damage.

Have a read of this relating to Grozny, Russia Warns Civilians in Chechnya

Similar playbook to me, but it would seem that the Ukrainians are capable of putting up stronger resistance, hope so.

Slava Ukraini
 

drron

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And in another consequence of the war the Russians are reopening McDonalds restaurant under a new name with no reference to mcDonalds.
 

burmans

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More than possible no, possible yes, but I'm with all the commentators on this. Russia is struggling to take on Ukraine and they think they have a chance against the combined force of NATO?. Sure, I get that in Russia they are acting in an echo chamber and aren't getting all the info about the real state of the war but but this would be a sure way to end Russia's power for a very long time, so while possible (and acknowledging all the internal craziness) I think this is more for internal patriotic consumption than a real threat.

Acknowledging the very real threats of nuclear weapons, it would be a sure way to ensure defeat (and fairly quickly).
 

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