Crew carry-on taking up PAX OHSB space

[TonyHancock]

I guess slightly off topic, but as I have posted elsewhere on AFF, it annoys me when crew carry on appears in the lockers over bulkhead and emergency exits. It has happened to me two or three times this year on 332's domestically with QF.

 

[extracta]

Why. It is none of your business.

 

[serfty]

It annoys me too.

When AirNZ first converted their international 320's to all economy there was a real issue with OHSB space for the first few rows.

Previously with 8 business seats there had been little issue with CC using some of the forward space for their 'stuff'.

However, crew use of the forward OHSB's this accentuated the problem and after a few weeks a high level edict come down that CC carry-on had to be stored aft.

 

[serfty]

Why. It is none of your business.

It certainly is a PAX's business where the taking up of OHSB space by CC means you can't store your stuff either nearby your seat or at all.

 

[extracta]

It certainly is a PAX's business where the taking up of OHSB space by CC means you can't store your stuff either nearby your seat or at all.

The safe storage of items carried on to an aircraft falls fairly and squarely in the responsibility of the CC. There is no actual right to any particular overhead locker space.

There are some things in this world that may be worthy of getting ANNOYED about. Where cabin crew safely store items on their aircraft isn't one of them.

 

[TonyHancock]

There are some things in this world that may be worthy of getting ANNOYED about. Where cabin crew safely store items on their aircraft isn't one of them.

My mistake. there was I thinking that I might have a choice of things to be annoyed with. Thank you for correcting us all.

Before the epiphany brought on by extracta's command, I used to be annoyed by cabin crew placing their carry on luggage in the bulkhead or emergency exit rows. There is already reduced space above these rows so it made it nigh on impossible to place my own carry on anywhere near me. Then upon disembarkation I found myself getting in everyone's way as I headed against the tide to recover my bag. On short flights I will typically not pick bulkhead unless I can stow under the seat in front. It would seem logical for cabin crew to place their luggage in the overhead lockers away from bulkheads and emergency exit. Clearly though I am wrong.

Obviously this no longer annoys me now...however I would appreciate a list of things that I am allowed to be annoyed about.

 

[extracta]

Before the epiphany brought on by extracta's command, I used to be annoyed by cabin crew placing their carry on luggage in the bulkhead or emergency exit rows. There is already reduced space above these rows so it made it nigh on impossible to place my own carry on anywhere near me. Then upon disembarkation I found myself getting in everyone's way as I headed against the tide to recover my bag.

Obviously this no longer annoys me now...however I would appreciate a list of things that I am allowed to be annoyed about.

I like flying in the exit row seats and as you say the overhead locker space is restricted and quite often when you get there they have all been filled. Leaving you in a position where you have to find an overhead locker further rear which causes a problem during disembarkation.

To alleviate that I now find locker space further forward as I am walking towards my seat and stow it there. Makes it easy to stow and easy to retrieve while moving forward on exit.

 

[TonyHancock]

I like flying in the exit row seats and as you say the overhead locker space is restricted and quite often when you get there they have all been filled. Leaving you in a position where you have to find an overhead locker further rear which causes a problem during disembarkation.

To alleviate that I now find locker space further forward as I am walking towards my seat and stow it there. Makes it easy to stow and easy to retrieve while moving forward on exit.

Good point. I'll knock on the coughpit door to see if I can pop my bag in there when I'm in 1C again, and I'm sure the good folks in J won't mind me using up their space when I'm in 23B on a 332.

In the days when I was allowed to choose what to be annoyed at, my suggestion would have been for the crew not to use the lockers above emergency exits or bulkheads. I can of course now see that where I stow my overhead bags is none of my business.!!

For example, 18 months ago we were on QF9 SIN-LHR in 50C, all the OHSB space above 50-52ABC was taken up by CC luggage - we like our stuff nearby, not 3 metres away, especially on fourteen hour flights.

extracta has the answer there. Just pop your carry on into the overhead lockers in the rows in front of you. I think, from memory, that would be 1-5 on QF9!!! :shock:

 

[serfty]

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There are some things in this world that may be worthy of getting ANNOYED about. Where cabin crew safely store items on their aircraft isn't one of them.

I am rarely annoyed, in general I am quite reasonable, and will make allowances, but sometimes things get over the top.

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To alleviate that I now find locker space further forward as I am walking towards my seat and stow it there. Makes it easy to stow and easy to retrieve while moving forward on exit.

It's a bit hard when you are already in the front row ...

For example, 18 months ago we were on QF9 SIN-LHR in 50C, all the OHSB space above 50-52ABC was taken up by CC luggage - of course being bulkhead - all our stuff had to go up top - or in this case - down back ...

Aside from that we like our stuff nearby, not 3 metres away, especially on fourteen hour flights. (We were first in the area to board, later PAX had even more issue.)

Look at the seat map - there is little enough storage in the area when compared to the remainder of the cabin. (http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/A380-14F72J32PY332Y.pdf)

 

[extracta]

I can of course now see that where I stow my overhead bags is none of my business.!!

Where you put your stuff is your business. Your complaint was where the cabin crew stores there stuff in emergency exits.
A bit of forethought helps alleviate problems of limited overhead locker space. Especially when you know you are in an exit row seat.

 

[serfty]

Where you put your stuff is your business. Your complaint was where the cabin crew stores there stuff in emergency exits.
A bit of forethought helps alleviate problems of limited overhead locker space. Especially when you know you are in an exit row seat.

Like what? Check Luggage?

I am already generally at the gate and indeed board at the first opportunity.

 

[TonyHancock]

Where you put your stuff is your business. Your complaint was where the cabin crew stores there stuff in emergency exits.
A bit of forethought helps alleviate problems of limited overhead locker space. Especially when you know you are in an exit row seat.

Of course how do I keep getting it so wrong? It's obvious I need to plan further ahead. It would be ludicrous to expect cabin crew not to place all of their carry on luggage in space above the rows of passengers who can't stow anything under the seat in front of them. What was I thinking?

 

[Austman]

Where you put your stuff is your business. Your complaint was where the cabin crew stores there stuff in emergency exits.
A bit of forethought helps alleviate problems of limited overhead locker space. Especially when you know you are in an exit row seat.

Was in a JQ A321 exit row a few days ago. The $25.00 extra cost seats. But row 1. There is no forward row to plan ahead. We were on board promptly but already all the lockers over rows 1, 2 and even 3 were full with (mostly) crew bags. There were a couple of pre-boarded pax too. So our bags went over row 4 which was OK, but a real hassle trying to get them back after landing.

Don't know how much more forward planning could be done.

 

[simongr]

I like flying in the exit row seats and as you say the overhead locker space is restricted and quite often when you get there they have all been filled. Leaving you in a position where you have to find an overhead locker further rear which causes a problem during disembarkation.

To alleviate that I now find locker space further forward as I am walking towards my seat and stow it there. Makes it easy to stow and easy to retrieve while moving forward on exit.

<redacted> You solution to CC bags being stored over the exit row seats is to store your bags closer to the front where other people might want to put their bags so it is closer to them?

 

[medhead]

You're not alone on this Tony. It annoys me and all. The crew have infinite flexibility when it comes to stowing their personal luggage. It is inconsiderate of them to stow their personal luggage above the only rows where passengers must store their luggage in the overheads for safety reasons. They have plenty of options for their luggage unlike passengers.

Where you put your stuff is your business. Your complaint was where the cabin crew stores there stuff in emergency exits.
A bit of forethought helps alleviate problems of limited overhead locker space. Especially when you know you are in an exit row seat.

This is not only exit rows. But you're right where my luggage goes is my business. I am responsible for the safety and security of my luggage on board an aircraft. Where crew have not taken the forethought in considering where they stow their luggage and it impacts on my business then their choices do become my business. I have expensive medical equipment that has been damaged due to inconsiderate crew actions. It is absolutely my responsibility to ensure that my property is secure and not likely to be damaged. If the crew are making poor choices that affects my ability to look after my responsibilities then yes I will be annoyed. When I get to my destination and find my medical equipment is damaged then yes I will be annoyed.

 

[eric2011]

To alleviate that I now find locker space further forward as I am walking towards my seat and stow it there. Makes it easy to stow and easy to retrieve while moving forward on exit.

Sorry, attitude like this is what annoys me. Dont take the space above my seat, use the space above your own. If no space then put it at your feet instead of pinching mine.

 

[nlagalle]

I like flying in the exit row seats and as you say the overhead locker space is restricted and quite often when you get there they have all been filled. Leaving you in a position where you have to find an overhead locker further rear which causes a problem during disembarkation.

To alleviate that I now find locker space further forward as I am walking towards my seat and stow it there. Makes it easy to stow and easy to retrieve while moving forward on exit.

I can't believe your attitude.. you should be able to stow it above you. i irks me more when i arrive to a seat with no one around to find someone elses baggage there! CC should place their bags out of the way of pax. I've had Row 50 each A380 flight and there has always been CC bags there.. annoying.

 

[smit0847]

When AirNZ first converted their international 320's to all economy

I know this is OT, but why did they do this?!

 

[Austman]

On my JQ flight, the crew knew it was not our fault that the bins above row 1 (and 2,3) were full. We were one of the first to board and there were only a couple of pre-boarded pax already sitting in these rows. The crew tried to be helpful by announcing during the landing taxi for rows 2 and 3 to please stay seated to allow row 1 pax to retrieve their bags. Of course rows 2 and 3 promptly ignored the request the second the seatbelt sign went off.

 

[JessicaTam]

I can't see why CC can't stow their bags at the very back of the a/c. They are after all the last to leave and so won't have passengers to climb past to access them.

There is always the TK option to put the bags in 1A/1C. I am not sure what happens to the pax in those seats though??