- Jan 29, 2017
No real need to take a dig at anyone who's decided they won't or can no longer contribute. Lots of stress among the people at embassies and the like as they worry about their citizens in Japan and South Korea and then themselves personally...Thanks for your "continuing" input DD….
Equally offensive to the the government officials.Pretty offensive characterisation in my opinion...
Government officials were in charge,
It depends what is needed to establish a "clean quarantine zone". In this case, there are a number of large hotels and a convention center (Pacifico Yokohama) in close proximity to the Yokohama Port Cruise pier. Would using the Pacifico Yokohama exhibition halls as a quarantine center been different to locking everyone in their cruise cabins?Remember this is a large number of people.
Had this ship arrived at any Australian port we equally wouldn't have had room in hospitals, immigrations facilities, accommodation camps or even hotels to establish a clean quarantine zone, and I suspect the only solution would have been cabin confinement.
Now I do think the Japanese did make some mistakes
- not establishing confinement earlier (passengers were still able to move for two days after it was first discovered)
- being slow to ramp up testing
- not switching to external food earlier (only happened day 10 or so) given risk of kitchen staff having it
- possibly not fully cleaning public areas or wearing appropriate protection given a number of Japanese health officials have contracted the virus - they should have been assuming every surface, every person on board possibly had the virus.
Siding with the government officials seems like an interesting choice given that you obviously have so little understanding of what's going on.Equally offensive to the the government officials.
Do you think it was solely bureaucrats in charge with zero medical training and no input from other infectious disease experts making decisions. Japan is a big country and I'd expect they would have multiple possible experts in this field.
After four more days:As of Wednesday's close, so basically after six more days worth of releases, the figures are now
621 Diamond Princess passengers and crew
3 government workers
25 in Tokyo, 12 in Wakayama, 7 in Aichi.
I'm trying to rationalise the age of many of the people who have succumbed to this illness. And if through pneumonia then that is a frequent cause of death anyway amongst this age group. The lady in Italy was also in her '80s and a cancer sufferer. Is there an age breakdown that you know of? Not just for Japan but generally?Yesterday also saw the third death of someone from the Diamond Princess. Ministry of Health won't disclose whether it was a passenger or a crew member, but I'm guessing the former since it was a Japanese male in his 80s.
Yesterday's 57 new Diamond Princess infections broke down into 2 passengers and 55 crew. Still crew members remaining to be tested.
Third day of a long weekend today, which appears to be affecting news flows to some degree. Japan is likely to alter its travel advice for South Korea today or tomorrow.
80+ years old
70-79 years old
60-69 years old
50-59 years old
40-49 years old
30-39 years old
Personally I think that table will not be accurate (with the actual death rate much lower) as large numbers of Covid-19 positive people simply are not included with the the official cases, whereas many, if not most deaths will be, as treatment will have been sought or the death investigated.
AGE DEATH RATE* 80+ years old 14.8% 70-79 years old 8.0% 60-69 years old 3.6% 50-59 years old 1.3% 40-49 years old 0.4% 30-39 years old 0.2%
Agree with that comment too but the above table is about probability - so older people who may contract the virus have a greater chance (14.8%) of dying from it.Personally I think that table will not be accurate (with the actual death rate much lower) as large numbers of Covid-19 positive people simply are not included with the the official cases, whereas many, if not most deaths will be, as treatment will have been sought or the death investigated.