Carry On Baggage

[NM]

Yep, I'm pretty quick myself. I bet if it was only you and I booked onto the flight we'd be off in record time!!!!!!....... Meanwhile, back in the real world, we're sharing the aircraft with several hundred additional passengers. I guess we can attempt to educate each and every one of those passengers to replicate our habits .... or alternatively we can attempt to restrict the luggage they bring on board to minimise the problem. Which approach do you think has the best chance of success ?.

Best approach is to ensure that you, KF and me are all sitting at the front of the aircraft so we are not delayed by the incompetent bag stowers behind us.

 

[mabunji]

I agree to that, but prefer that those using checked bag facilities, should be the ones to pay!

It costs an airline a whole lot less to fly me to my destination, than someone who needs to –

1. Interact with a human at check-in.
2. Have their baggage transported from check-in to the aircraft, via costly conveyor systems.
3. Have their checked bag tracked by computer software.
4. Have their bag loaded into the aircraft.
5. Weigh down the aircraft with their checked bags, causing more fuel to be used.
6. Interline their baggage at transit points.
7. Have their bags off-loaded at the final destination.
8. Transfer bags through well maintained systems, to carousels...

To be frank, I want a discount for not causing these huge charges to be added to the airline’s bottom line.

OK, I’ll bite.

As I understand the points above, you are attempting to argue that by taking all of your bags as hand-luggage you are saving the airline money as you do not utilize baggage-handling ?

- All of the infrastructure (conveyer belts, software) is already in place. It is a sunk cost. Whether 1, 10 or 100 passengers make use of the facility the cost is basically the same.
- Next time you are in the lounge take a look at the volume of bags being loaded into the belly of the aircraft. When you get on board have a look at the overhead lockers – squint your eyes and mentally load all of those additional bags into the restricted locker space. Not easy is it ?. I’m guessing 70/80% of all pax bags are loaded into the bowels of the aircraft ?. If we’re going to bring them into the cabin we’re really going to have to supersize them lockers. I suspect the cost of re-designing the cabin bins will negate any savings we believe we will make by not using the baggage handling systems. (Additionally I think we will all be crawling around the cabin like demented midgets trying to avoid the cancerous luggage bins that ate the aircraft !).
- Are there any rules in place at all? Am I allowed to bring my skis/surfboard/bike on board as hand luggage? It saves the airline the cost of using the baggage system, and that’s good right?
- Are we going to cut the elderly or infirm any slack? They’re as keen as everyone else to benefit from a discount and very willing to participate in this brave new world. Sure, they might be a bit slow and really wobbly hoisting their bags into the bins but good on them huh ?.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

Apples and Oranges. 15kg is less than 30kg. Always has been, always will. d15.in.oz was attempting to argue that loading bags into the belly of the aircraft burnt fuel and cost the airlines money (implying that the same weight of bags stowed in the overhead bins were immune from this natural occurence). This is the argument you need to address - does a bag stashed in the cabin weigh less than an identical weight bag stowed as checked luggage ?. Me thinks not.

I don't think it is apples and oranges. Take my most recent trip. I wanted to take carry ons only and because of this took less than I would have had I not minded checking in luggage. I had to sacrifice taking some stuff with me in order to manage to meet the carry on requirements.

 

[serfty]

OK, I’ll bite.

As I understand the points above, you are attempting to argue that by taking all of your bags as hand-luggage you are saving the airline money as you do not utilize baggage-handling ?

- All of the infrastructure (conveyer belts, software) is already in place. It is a sunk cost. Whether 1, 10 or 100 passengers make use of the facility the cost is basically the same.
- Next time you are in the lounge take a look at the volume of bags being loaded into the belly of the aircraft. When you get on board have a look at the overhead lockers – squint your eyes and mentally load all of those additional bags into the restricted locker space. Not easy is it ?. I’m guessing 70/80% of all pax bags are loaded into the bowels of the aircraft ?. ...

Actually, airlines prefer you to not have checked luggage as they then on sell to space created to Freight Companies, often on a 'space available' basis.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

Best approach is to ensure that you, KF and me are all sitting at the front of the aircraft so we are not delayed by the incompetent bag stowers behind us.

If only they'd use that as criteria in op-ups and clearing supported upgrades

 

[d15.in.oz]

...d15.in.oz was attempting to argue that loading bags into the belly of the aircraft burnt fuel and cost the airlines money (implying that the same weight of bags stowed in the overhead bins were immune from this natural occurence)...

:-| Nope... 7kg onboard QF and around (status/destination/class depending) 32kg in the belly.

For me:
Carry-on = travel light, checked bags = i'll take everything "just incase".