AY RTW Sale

[kingjjj]

As recently discussed here: RTW Oneworld fare $6.90 per SC

This J fare is now back

Sale ends: 16/03

Originating cities: BNE/MEL/SYD/CBR/ADL/CNS/HBA are roughly the same price (common rated). PER/DRW/OOL are a little more.

Stopovers: 2 stopovers in each direction + the destination itself for a total of 5 stops.

Cheapest routing: xx_ QF SYD QF/AA SFO AY HEL AY YYY AY HEL AY BKK QF SYD QF xx_

where xx_ is your AU domestic port and YYY is your port in the EU.

Prices at about $5170 AUD.

Can this be booked on their website, or do you need a TA?

 

[madrooster]

Can this be booked on their website, or do you need a TA?

TA only. If you have dates and a routing in mind I can check availability etc. for you.

 

[kingjjj]

Thanks for the offer, much appreciated.

It was more for my parents than myself. I just wanted to play around with the engine to see if there were any dates & prices that might work out but I might hold off then since this wouldn’t be easy/quick.

TA only. If you have dates and a routing in mind I can check availability etc. for you.

madrooster

 

[prozac]

Thanks for highlighting this madrooster. AY have been on my radar for a couple of years, just haven't had the opportunity yet. I had not considered a RTW before so will send a pm.

 

[Cappuccino99]

Thanks for this info MadRooster. I hope to use this to visit my new grandchild in London in September and 'pop in' to other family /friends in Asia and Europe.

 

[SYD]

Notes:
You can also use the fare to go xx_ QF SYD QF/AA SFO AY HEL AY YYY and back via the same routing via SFO.

You can also go via Asia both ways.

So, on the first point - HEL-NYC v.v is not possible even if in one direction you tick off SFO-HEL v.v? (I know their 'regular' RTW fare is ~$7K+ But includes trans-US flights on AA).

For the 2nd point, so SYD-SFO return (via Asia and HEL) is possible for a similar fare?

 

[madrooster]

So, on the first point - HEL-NYC v.v is not possible even if in one direction you tick off SFO-HEL v.v? (I know their 'regular' RTW fare is ~$7K+ But includes trans-US flights on AA).

It's possible but only when combined on a half return basis with their regular fare. Basically you'd take half the sale fare and half the non-sale fare and end up somewhere in between.

For the 2nd point, so SYD-SFO return (via Asia and HEL) is possible for a similar fare?

I'm not sure what routing you are referring to here? You can do SYD-SFO-HEL-EU-HEL-SFO-SYD for a similar price if that's what you would prefer to do. Ironically cheaper than doing SYD-SFO-SYD on QF on its own...

 

[SYD]

It's possible but only when combined on a half return basis with their regular fare. Basically you'd take half the sale fare and half the non-sale fare and end up somewhere in between.

I'm not sure what routing you are referring to here? You can do SYD-SFO-HEL-EU-HEL-SFO-SYD for a similar price if that's what you would prefer to do. Ironically cheaper than doing SYD-SFO-SYD on QF on its own...

Thanks. The questions were more for those 'playing at home' to appreciate the value of this deal.

The first option might be very attractive for anyone wanting to spend more time in the US beyond SFO. Obviously costs more, but might work out better than booking seperate AA flights (unless you want to do hard core mileage runs).

Yes, the 2nd point was confirming (if you wanted to) do something like SYD-BKK/SIN/HKG-HEL-EU-HEL-SFO (Ret). Not necessarily with two EU stopovers, but maybe one transit in HEL to/from SFO. I guess, all depends on where your 5 stopovers are.

Alas, I can't use this at the moment.

 

[madrooster]

s, the 2nd point was confirming (if you wanted to) do something like SYD-BKK/SIN/HKG-HEL-EU-HEL-SFO (Ret). Not necessarily with two EU stopovers, but maybe one transit in HEL to/from SFO. I guess, all depends on where your 5 stopovers are.

Just to clarify, once you reach SFO you have to return to straight to SYD on QF.

Basically you may go either direction.

 

[Quickstatus]

[QUOTE="SYD, post: 1744342, member: 21582]

Yes, the 2nd point was confirming (if you wanted to) do something like SYD-BKK/SIN/HKG-HEL-EU-HEL-SFO (Ret). Not necessarily with two EU stopovers, but maybe one transit in HEL to/from SFO. I guess, all depends on where your 5 stopovers are.

[/QUOTE]

I suspect a multi Asia stopover will be an add on to the base fare again as this is an AY constructed fare and will be operated by MH or other one world airlines.

Flights into HEL from Asia (SIN,BKK,hKG) arrive around 5-6am depending on season.
AY11 seasonal HEL-SFO nonstop departs at 1635hrs. So this means you have about 10-11 hours ground time.
So practically it would be difficult to fly 10 hours, transit 10 hours in HEL then fly another 10 hours to SFO. Hence a stopover is better and may be a compulsory fare construct anyway.

Of course you could go HEL-JFK but this is the more expensive fare. But the sale is essentially based on the seasonal 3 times a week AY11 HEL-SFO or AY12 SFO-HEL.
Though the more expensive routing HEL-JFK is also quite attractive as well.

 

[Cappuccino99]

Thanks for this info MadRooster. I hope to use this to visit my new grandchild in London in September and 'pop in' to other family /friends in Asia and Europe.

Hi MadRooster - I've sent you a PM

 

[ozflier]

Hi MadRooster - I've sent you a PM

Thank you very much for this very interesting discussion.
I am looking at a RTW in october or november this year - I recognise that the deal under discussion is not valid then but , in the past , have finnair come up with good deals that cover this post september time period.
I do not need to fly thru SFO.

 

[madrooster]

Thank you very much for this very interesting discussion.
I am looking at a RTW in october or november this year - I recognise that the deal under discussion is not valid then but , in the past , have finnair come up with good deals that cover this post september time period.
I do not need to fly thru SFO.

You can fly it in Oct/Nov if you wish, but with a caveat. The rules are that you must commence the ticket by 27/09. So if you are MEL based for example, you can have the ticket do MEL-SYD as your first leg then before 27/09, return SYD-MEL whenever at your own added cost, then do another MEL-SYD at your own added cost in Oct/Nov to actually start the RTW. That's just one of a few ways you can get around the date restriction.

For everyone else...

AY has now also added more allowed routings as of last week, so it's no longer a requirement to use SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO. You can now go through a mix of SFO, LAX, DFW, NYC and ORD (choose 2). Open jaws are also permitted within the US.

 

[Quickstatus]

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AY has now also added more allowed routings as of last week, so it's no longer a requirement to use SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO. You can now go through a mix of SFO, LAX, DFW, NYC and ORD (choose 2). Open jaws are also permitted within the US.

Interesting, is AY not getting any bites? They reactivated this deal a month after closing it and now they are adding to it

While allowed, would the cheapest be still via SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO?

 

[madrooster]

Interesting, is AY not getting any bites? They reactivated this deal a month after closing it and now they are adding to it

While allowed, would the cheapest be still via SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO?

There's no difference in fare for using an alternate route via North America. Just a minor tax difference.

 

[ozflier]

You can fly it in Oct/Nov if you wish, but with a caveat. The rules are that you must commence the ticket by 27/09. So if you are MEL based for example, you can have the ticket do MEL-SYD as your first leg then before 27/09, return SYD-MEL whenever at your own added cost, then do another MEL-SYD at your own added cost in Oct/Nov to actually start the RTW. That's just one of a few ways you can get around the date restriction.

For everyone else...

AY has now also added more allowed routings as of last week, so it's no longer a requirement to use SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO. You can now go through a mix of SFO, LAX, DFW, NYC and ORD (choose 2). Open jaws are also permitted within the US.

Thank you for this information - very useful.

 

[ozflier]

Ha

Interesting, is AY not getting any bites? They reactivated this deal a month after closing it and now they are adding to it

While allowed, would the cheapest be still via SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO?

Has AY changed the final reservation date from 16/3 or is it still the same?

 

[madrooster]

Has AY changed the final reservation date from 16/3 or is it still the same?

The end of sale is still 16/03.

 

[ozflier]

I was at a Flight Centre “do” in Melbourne this morning and asked the Finnair round world deal mentioned on this site.

The apparently competent rep there ( as explained on this blog) said I’d have to travel melb-Syd-Bankokk and then onto Helsinki and Europe and home via the USA.

I mentioned that I read, that to get round the 27 september flight start rule, it would be enough to fly a domestic Australian segment pre that date as part of the rtw ticket and then fly Sydney to Bankokk and Helsinki in November.

He insisted that the first flight needed to be outside of Australia and must be taken before 27 september.

Has he got it wrong or have the rules be tightened?

 

[docjames]

As recently discussed here: RTW Oneworld fare $6.90 per SC

This J fare is now back

Sale ends: 16/03

Originating cities: BNE/MEL/SYD/CBR/ADL/CNS/HBA are roughly the same price (common rated). PER/DRW/OOL are a little more.

Stopovers: 2 stopovers in each direction + the destination itself for a total of 5 stops.

Cheapest routing: xx_ QF SYD QF/AA SFO AY HEL AY YYY AY HEL AY BKK QF SYD QF xx_

where xx_ is your AU domestic port and YYY is your port in the EU.

Prices at about $5170 AUD.

Notes:

You can also use the fare to go xx_ QF SYD QF/AA SFO AY HEL AY YYY and back via the same routing via SFO.

You can also go via Asia both ways.

HKG or SIN as the Asia port also works, but is a few hundred extra.

Must include SFO-HEL or HEL-SFO on AY which only runs on Tue/Thu/Sun from 15 MAY 2018 to 27 SEP 2018.

Is this bookable for April 2018 travel?