Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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NSW will have 10000 covid cases total probably next week. (Over 3000 in the Delta outbreak currently as at today)

Unfortunately in about 7 more weeks NSW will have over 20000 cases.
 

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So it is starting to be more and more likely that the Moonee Valley Traffic Controller was infected by a person getting tested. The Vic CHO said today that this is most likely how transmission occurred, though is not known. While not good in itself, it is actually good in that it would mean that there is not an unknown transmission chain. Note that it was stated prior to today that there had been people at the MV Testing Site who had returned positive tests on the days that the the traffic controller was working in the period that he was possibly infected.

If so, this will be another example of:
  • fleeting transmission (ie only brief time duration of proximity for transmission)
  • outdoor transmission
 

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The idiot marchers last weekend are telling each other not to get tested. Maybe the outcome of that will be a decline in infection numbers but the death numbers will go up.
 

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The idiot marchers last weekend are telling each other not to get tested. Maybe the outcome of that will be a decline in infection numbers but the death numbers will go up.
Eventually the numbers will show up - if not testing, then hospitalisation and deaths. It will almost be likely everyone presenting at hospital with symptoms will be tested and similarly deaths.
 

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Why even give them any attention whatsoever.

Im not in any way supporting protests, but as has been proven many many times in history, it’s dangerous to ignore public sentiment. I don’t know anyone protesting, but I know plenty of people who are absolutely over the way all governments are handling this.

It sets a very scary precedent for government to say “no, you can’t protest, your voice cannot be heard” because said government has decided to impose draconian restrictions.
 

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Im not in any way supporting protests, but as has been proven many many times in history, it’s dangerous to ignore public sentiment. I don’t know anyone protesting, but I know plenty of people who are absolutely over the way all governments are handling this.

It sets a very scary precedent for government to say “no, you can’t protest, your voice cannot be heard” because said government has decided to impose draconian restrictions.
Sorry, to be specific - ignore those who are refusing to get tested if symptomatic.

I agree with the content of your post.
 

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Im not in any way supporting protests, but as has been proven many many times in history, it’s dangerous to ignore public sentiment. I don’t know anyone protesting, but I know plenty of people who are absolutely over the way all governments are handling this.

It sets a very scary precedent for government to say “no, you can’t protest, your voice cannot be heard” because said government has decided to impose draconian restrictions.

The government is well aware of the sentiment of the minority anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdowners - which makes the protest useless, and serves zero purpose.

It's not like this is an issue the government is trying to 'keep quiet', or there's wrongdoing or corruption that needs to be exposed through protest.

If it does turn out that the anti-vaxxers are right, they are the only ones that live and the vaccine kills the rest of us... I'll die happy. The alternative of living in a world only populated by the anti-vaxxers wouldn't be much fun :eek:
 

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The government is well aware of the sentiment of the minority anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdowners - which makes the protest useless, and serves zero purpose.

It's not like this is an issue the government is trying to 'keep quiet', or there's wrongdoing or corruption that needs to be exposed through protest.

If it does turn out that the anti-vaxxers are right, they are the only ones that live and the vaccine kills the rest of us... I'll die happy. The alternative of living in a world only populated by the anti-vaxxers wouldn't be much fun :eek:

A lot of governments do things they know are wrong. Doesn’t stop them doing it. Things only change when people speak up.

Again, it’s externally dangerous for governments to restrict freedom of speech on the basis of their own restrictions (that every single person would agree is a massive breach of our right to free movement). Lockdown lovers do struggle to see through this.
 

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A lot of governments do things they know are wrong. Doesn’t stop them doing it. Things only change when people speak up.

Again, it’s externally dangerous for governments to restrict freedom of speech on the basis of their own restrictions (that every single person would agree is a massive breach of our right to free movement). Lockdown lovers do struggle to see through this.

Unfortunately we don't have a right to free movement in Australia.

But if this was a protest in Canberra arguing that we should be allowed to freely leave Australia, I'd be there!
 

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ABC reporting

No one turns up to Sydney anti-lockdown protest

It was a far cry from the wild scenes of last weekend.

Instead of corralling large crowds, the police horses today munched on grass in Sydney's Hyde Park.

After last weekend's anti-lockdown protests saw thousands of people descend on the CBD, fears of a repeat fizzled this afternoon.

By 1:00pm, the ABC had been unable to identify a single demonstrator at several central locations.

Sydneysiders had been warned for days there would be a large police presence in the city.

An exclusion zone has been set up around the CBD until 3.00pm, with roadblocks preventing access from main roads.

Large groups of police strolled the streets as a helicopter swooped over Darling Harbour this morning, where there were plenty of socially-distanced exercisers, but no demonstrators.

Taxis and ride-sharing services were banned from picking up or dropping people off in the exclusion zone unless they were transporting someone for a medical emergency, or an essential worker.

Police also swarmed suburban train stations in an effort to stop people from heading into the CBD, with any protesters facing fines of up to $100,000.

Dozens of officers from the riot squad and mounted police unit were at Hyde Park and Town Hall where last weekend's demonstration escalated.

While people were allowed to walk through the iconic lawns, large groups were stopped and asked where they are going as a precaution.

Officers from the dog squad were scouring the perimeter and Tobruk, the police horse that was attacked by a demonstrator last weekend, has also been patrolling the area.
 

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Unfortunately we don't have a right to free movement in Australia.

And that’s a major concern.

There are currently police checkpoints stopping every single vehicle on parramatta road at Annandale. This purely on the basis of a “public health order” that was thrown together without any real scrutiny.

Agree or disagree with these protesters, but it’s hard to say there isn’t a major breach of our basic rights going on here.
 

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By Nicholas McElroy, ABC News

A man aged in his 60s has died of COVID in NSW

A man in his 60s has died in his south-west Sydney home from COVID-19.
He’s the state’s 70th COVID-19 fatality and the 14th of this Delta outbreak.
His death will be included in tomorrow’s numbers.
 

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Well, I'd say there is an argument to be had here that the governments may have created an environment where some in the community (by no means all) are too afraid to even seek healthcare when ill.
 

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By Nicholas McElroy, ABC News

A man aged in his 60s has died of COVID in NSW

A man in his 60s has died in his south-west Sydney home from COVID-19.
He’s the state’s 70th COVID-19 fatality and the 14th of this Delta outbreak.
His death will be included in tomorrow’s numbers.

Why are these people dying at their homes…?
 
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Well, I'd say there is an argument to be had here that the governments may have created an environment where some in the community (by no means all) are too afraid to even seek healthcare when ill.
Problem from what I understand is that it is from a government, just not our government. Many migrant families were not treated well by the governments where they have originated from.
 

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