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Flying Fox said:
Question - What does the 73H designation refer to?

I have heard of 737NG (Next Generation) which I believes refers to 737-600's,700's, 800's & 900's but not the 73H.
73H is a 737-800 with winglets.
73G is a 737-700 with winglets.
 
straitman said:
codash1099,

Where is the B737 any different to the A320 in this regard :?:
Well the last time I flew an A320 was back in the Ansett pre-trouble days (sheds a tear or two) so relying on memory is a bit of a doubtful exercise. However I do not recall the same degree of discomfort I felt when I last flew a 737 (more recently and no, I'm not significantly wider).

IIRC, the A320 is a wider aircraft and seats are a little wider. I know this is marginal, but small differences have a big effect.
 
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NM said:
Flying Fox said:
Question - What does the 73H designation refer to?

I have heard of 737NG (Next Generation) which I believes refers to 737-600's,700's, 800's & 900's but not the 73H.
73H is a 737-800 with winglets.
73G is a 737-700 with winglets.
Conversely, a 738 is a 737-800 pax series without winglets.

More here: The Airline Codes Website
 
codash1099 said:
Well the last time I flew an A320 was back in the Ansett pre-trouble days (sheds a tear or two) so relying on memory is a bit of a doubtful exercise. However I do not recall the same degree of discomfort I felt when I last flew a 737 (more recently and no, I'm not significantly wider).

IIRC, the A320 is a wider aircraft and seats are a little wider. I know this is marginal, but small differences have a big effect.

I also flew in the Ansett A320's and while I was not really aware of why, I do recall the airbus being more comfortable than the 737. Maybe it was the width thing.
 
serfty said:
Conversely, a 738 is a 737-800 pax series without winglets.

More here: The Airline Codes Website

Is it safe to assume that when they put on the winglets that they do not change anything else? There seems to be a bit of an obsession about winglets - quite a few comments in trip reports - never seen the fascination myself...
 
simongr said:
Is it safe to assume that when they put on the winglets that they do not change anything else? There seems to be a bit of an obsession about winglets - quite a few comments in trip reports - never seen the fascination myself...

The size of the cheque used to pay for the plane changes :)
 
oz_mark said:
I also flew in the Ansett A320's and while I was not really aware of why, I do recall the airbus being more comfortable than the 737. Maybe it was the width thing.
I flew on both last week and again this week and I'm not really sure about any significant difference from a pax perspective. I don't really love (or hate) either :!:
 
codash1099 said:
Well the last time I flew an A320 was back in the Ansett pre-trouble days (sheds a tear or two) so relying on memory is a bit of a doubtful exercise. However I do not recall the same degree of discomfort I felt when I last flew a 737 (more recently and no, I'm not significantly wider).

IIRC, the A320 is a wider aircraft and seats are a little wider. I know this is marginal, but small differences have a big effect.

Ansetts A320s were not standard when it came to interiors, in fact they had custom designed ones after Peter Ables saw the first plane and its factory interior. Ansett were of course the launch customer for the 200 variant.
 
serfty said:
Conversely, a 738 is a 737-800 pax series without winglets.

More here: The Airline Codes Website
So what do you call a 737-700 without winglets?

To overcome that little issue, the 73G is used to reference all 737-700 models, with and without winglets.

Winglets can be added as an after market accessory. They can be purchased from the airline equivalent of Super Cheap Auto and fitted by companies like Air New Zealand Engineering Services.
 
Assuming the web site is correct I guess a 73G with winglets is the aftermarket version:
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 73G 	 B737 	 Boeing 737-700 pax
...

 73W 	 B737 	 Boeing 737-700 (winglets) pax
NM said:
... Winglets can be added as an after market accessory. They can be purchased from the airline equivalent of Super Cheap Auto and fitted by companies like Air New Zealand Engineering Services.
Hopefully not using staples ... :shock: :p
 
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straitman said:
I flew on both last week and again this week and I'm not really sure about any significant difference from a pax perspective. I don't really love (or hate) either :!:


Sounds like this could descend into the personal wrto the size of one's seat!
 
NM said:
So what do you call a 737-700 without winglets?

To overcome that little issue, the 73G is used to reference all 737-700 models, with and without winglets.

Winglets can be added as an after market accessory. They can be purchased from the airline equivalent of Super Cheap Auto and fitted by companies like Air New Zealand Engineering Services.

I have heard it is of the order of $1 million to retrofit.
 
Flying Fox said:
Thanks everyone, you are all a wealth of information.

Personally, I'm a fan of the winglets.

And so are airlines, Winglets will extend the 737-800's range by more than 150 miles. The airplane's cruise fuel mileage will improve by up to six percent, resulting in nearly a five percent reduction in gate-to-gate fuel consumption. It can carry up to 6,000 pounds more payload, and climb more efficiently while using less thrust..... Boeing: Boeing Airplane Services Responds To Growing Aviation Services Market

Thats a few good reasons to fit them!
 
markis10 said:
Ansetts A320s were not standard when it came to interiors, in fact they had custom designed ones after Peter Ables saw the first plane and its factory interior. Ansett were of course the launch customer for the 200 variant.
A bit OT here... was it the Ansett A320s that had the fake wood panelling on the front left bulkhead/wall with 'Skystar' embossed in gold next to a large, gold-framed analogue clock?
 
toowongman said:
A bit OT here... was it the Ansett A320s that had the fake wood panelling on the front left bulkhead/wall with 'Skystar' embossed in gold next to a large, gold-framed analogue clock?

That's a "yes"
 
NM said:
At least that should mean the end of the 734 fleet over the next few years.

Or Air NZ will be facing an influx of QF dumping 734's on their domestic routes like they have never seen before :p
 
pauly7 said:
Or Air NZ will be facing an influx of QF dumping 734's on their domestic routes like they have never seen before :p
and I cannot think of a better place for them to serve out the retirement years :p
 
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