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Hi all, I see we made the lead story of the new edition of Frequent Flyer Gazette, just published. Seems the generic subject of this thread is interesting to a wider audience, albeit controversial. Some of the posts overnight were personal and off topic, and I see no good would come of...

What I posted about myself regarding 20+ years doesn't say what you wrote, at all. Anyway, it doesn't matter .. you misunderstood .. no big deal .. of course I've been getting FF miles/points. I certainly don't claim to understand all about FF .. but what you wrote about who determines how...

Not sure how you concluded I only just cottoned on to being able to get FF points, as it's not the case. Please, save us all by not quoting something from the past on this technicality .. if it was ambiguous, so be it. Your posting is very well written. I agree with your underlying point ...

Regarding your first paragraph, big companies have corporate travel policies that would not allow you to do so, even though you might technically have the ability to do so. Regarding your second paragraph, you have taken the whole thread backwards by tenaciously playing detective to find...

In big companies, flight reservations are nearly always centralised .. ie an internal travel department, or outsourced to a corporate travel agent. They are the ones that make the bookings .. so the employees aren't wasting their time searching for flights, given travel agents have far more...

OK, so if you truly have the power to not travel out of hours, then the employer will lose ... and yes, the point can't be used on all flights at all times .. not sure what more I can add. No need for me to PM you my website ... several other here would be pleased to do so.:lol:

Hi John, Yes, this thread has taught me several things ... What I summarised in my last post No indication of companies in Australia owning the miles/points, even though there's no doubt about the USA and Europe. (Confirmed by several independent posts on FT) In Australia, employees seem to...

I re-read all the posts in this thread, and also in the thread of the same name, that I started on Flyertalk. Firstly, my sincere thanks to all who contributed. Even though this was an emotional and controversial roller coaster, I hope this thread has also triggered new perspectives. In...

John, Thanks .. that's a very useful perspective. I am serious jealous, that in your part of the world, you guys have the power to dictate business class travel. Really, good for you. I'm really not saying "this is what companies want" ... I'm saying, "this is the picture today, fact. Does...

For 20+ years, like many of you guys, I travelled a lot, got to know hotel staff on first name terms, knew all the wi-fi hot spots at major airports, could recite flight timetables by heart, missed flights, missed time with my family etc, etc. Just 3 weeks ago, I entered the world of FF miles...

Hey John, the ex-employee confirmed it was like that when he worked there, and still is. Yet you read it as "appears to have now ditch ditched". You are wrong. If you can tell me how to make a decent living from writing and publishing children's books, and I end up being able to do that, we...

Your choice. You have a clear statement from an ex employee of a F500 top 50 company on Flyertalk, who stated it was like that when he worked there, and he just called his friends there and confirmed it's still like that now, and you continue to doubt if it's true. You call them and let us all...

A relief to know the largest public company in the world took it so seriously, invested in analyzing the benefits, and made a clear policy decision based on the information they had available at the time ... It sort of raises an interesting point .. many companies asked themselves the same...

Hey, I didn't say an employee should pay for business fuel in a company car! .... An example .. I worked for a large company .. had a company car ... all fuel was paid ... where "all" = business + private. Then one day, the company changed the fuel policy .. they were willing to pay for...

"Missed" rather than "ignored" is perhaps more accurate! Went back to your original posting ... OK .. good point. Most companies I've worked for announce new policies ... some are better than what they replace :), but many are not :( . For latter, IMHO, employees are not usually in a...

@rtyuiop – Danny, thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm glad you agree. Sometimes, things are taken away from us, but other things are given in return. So, the question in this context is what would you accept in exchange for losing your FF miles, given your status (gold card, lounges, etc) is...

@nlagalle – Good points. I worked for a well known company until recently. The company's travel policy was to buy the absolute cheapest flights possible, which meant minimum miles and the most unsociable times possible .. regular red eye flights .. arriving back to home airport 5am, meaning...

Guys, some really interesting, healthy discussion here. At the risk of being controversial, which I assume is OK, as this forum is defined as the place to ask hard questions, I don't agree with a few of the recent comments ..... @ozbeachbabe --- I agree that the miles are seen as a perk...

Hi all, Many thanks for so many comments in less than 24 hours. I posted here because I liked the definition of this forum "This is where you can ask the hard questions about frequent flyer programs .. ", and I'm really pleased my question has generated a lot of interesting perspectives...

rwatts's comment " .. the department began negotiating contract rates which do not earn points" says a lot ... His organisation understood the price of the air ticket included the price of the miles/points, so as legislation prevents government employees owning the points, they are negotiating a...