Qantas suspends relationship with Tourism Australia; Claims Dixon "Sabotage"

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Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

Mal Ware said:
Joyce doing things his way again, determined to destroy an Australian Icon.

I wonder if there has ever been a CEO in the history of CEO's that has brought upon so much negative publicity to the company they are in charge of as much as Joyce has.

The guy has to go...
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So you think Dixon, a former CEO, who is rattling the cage here is doing the right thing? I fail to see how this is "destroying" Qantas. If anything Dixon and his cronies (who were part of the failed equity takeover) did more damage back then and will do more if not shut out soon.
 
anat0l said:
To be fair, none of those are really Australian icons (iconic companies).
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There was never any reference to the CEO's having to come from iconic companies, just CEO's in the history of CEO's.
All three of those cases were quite widely publicised were they not? Wasn't the health insurance fund one of the largest?
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

While it hasn't been smooth sailing for Joyce, he took over at a bad time, and one could easily argue that Dixon could have shaped the future of Qantas much better, but didn't.

I agree, on the face of it ties with CX and OneWorld partners would make more sense, but seeing as they haven't helped thus far, why would you keep going with a strategy that doesn't work? The EK deal does have some interesting parts about it, but I see it being a better option than OneWorld partners at this stage. That said, would be devastated if they left OneWorld and assume they wont.

As for the tourism dollars, seeing as they're going to the states and not the feds now, what's the issue? Lets see if Dixon wants to work with Virgin Australia instead... because I do agree him being part of a consortium wanting to takeover Qantas is a bit of a conflict, and trust it'd be a conflict for him to even ink a deal with VA.
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

samh004 said:
Lets see if Dixon wants to work with Virgin Australia instead... because I do agree him being part of a consortium wanting to takeover Qantas is a bit of a conflict, and trust it'd be a conflict for him to even ink a deal with VA.
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Well, one thing to consider is that irrespective of his position on Qantas, wouldn't an argument like this suggest that he's in conflict already (or rather, for a number of years by now) for having a business relationship with Qantas knowing that both CEOs were on conflict of interest terms?

Why is it only now that there is a more antagonistic view on Qantas that suddenly conflict of interest is, well, of interest? Granted, there is something a bit more tangible attached to it now, i.e. possibility of taking a larger shareholding...
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

The QF directors should undo some of the contracts that Dixon has with the company (if he still has a any deal operating).
That is what I would do.
 
anat0l said:
Well, one thing to consider is that irrespective of his position on Qantas, wouldn't an argument like this suggest that he's in conflict already (or rather, for a number of years by now) for having a business relationship with Qantas knowing that both CEOs were on conflict of interest terms?

Why is it only now that there is a more antagonistic view on Qantas that suddenly conflict of interest is, well, of interest? Granted, there is something a bit more tangible attached to it now, i.e. possibility of taking a larger shareholding...
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I think it boils down now to the fact Dixon is deliberately trying to oust Joyce and destabilize management. He had his time as CEO and if he didn't get it right then, what's to say he is right now?
 
mannej said:
I would say yes to your rhetorical questions...

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And you would be right, but that does not make having Joyce there a good thing does it?

anat0l said:
To be fair, none of those are really Australian icons (iconic companies).
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True also, which even more shows why Joyce should not be there doing this to our once proud and strong airline.

nlagalle said:
So you think Dixon, a former CEO, who is rattling the cage here is doing the right thing?
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Not particularly but is the fact that Joyce wants to publicly argue with him a good thing either? Maybe Dixon can see the writing on the wall for what Joyce is doing to Qantas or maybe it is purely for financial reasons, either way anyone can highlight what an arrogant one eyed antagonist Joyce is gets my vote.

A CEO should be leading an organisation not placing it in continual conflict and turmoil. Joyce likes to fight and I suspect will stop at nothing to get his own way, to show he did it "his way", and I am sure he would do this at any cost, regardless of what it did to Qantas or shareholders.
nlagalle said:
I fail to see how this is "destroying" Qantas.
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Maybe use both eyes instead of just one;)

samh004 said:
While it hasn't been smooth sailing for Joyce
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Or Qantas because of Joyce.
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

nlagalle said:
So you think Dixon, a former CEO, who is rattling the cage here is doing the right thing? I fail to see how this is "destroying" Qantas. If anything Dixon and his cronies (who were part of the failed equity takeover) did more damage back then and will do more if not shut out soon.
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I am not in love with what Joyce is doing to Qantas however it was Dixon why planted the seeds of the weeds we now have.

To suggest Joyce is the cause is to be totally naive.
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

straitman said:
I am not in love with what Joyce is doing to Qantas however it was Dixon why planted the seeds of the weeds we now have.

To suggest Joyce is the cause is to be totally naive.
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Perhaps Dixon and his mates have learned by their mistakes ?:confused:
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

serfty said:
What? - they are trying to do the same with someone else now?
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Chinese this time.....maybe wishing for that "lost in translation" moment;)
 
Re: Tourism backs Dixon over Joyce

In one fowl swoop AJ has thwarted Dixon (the EK deal).

Share price is on the up.........and the public overwhelmingly support the EK tie up.
Dixon is furious at this turn of events............AJ has outsmarted him (who'd have thought?)

AJ has the rare chance of redemption.........Dixon is cancer.

If AJ could just throw one or two more punches (like SYD-KUL and PER-DXB and MEL-NRT and BNE-BKK).......then the public will fall in love all over again.
 
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Mal Ware said:
Not particularly but is the fact that Joyce wants to publicly argue with him a good thing either? Maybe Dixon can see the writing on the wall for what Joyce is doing to Qantas or maybe it is purely for financial reasons, either way anyone can highlight what an arrogant one eyed antagonist Joyce is gets my vote.
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so he should sit there quietly and let Dixon do as he pleases? Sorry, you want someone in charge who will stand up to it.


A CEO should be leading an organisation not placing it in continual conflict and turmoil. Joyce likes to fight and I suspect will stop at nothing to get his own way, to show he did it "his way", and I am sure he would do this at any cost, regardless of what it did to Qantas or shareholders.
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Well i haven't seen any conflict within the company since the grounding last year (of which i was caught in London when it happened). Do you think he should have pandered to the Unions and given them what they want? The unions made ridiculous demands so he was right to stand up to them. care to name anymore "conflict and turmoil"

Maybe use both eyes instead of just one;)
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unlike you i do see it through both eyes and can see what happened further back than you obviously can.

Or Qantas because of Joyce.
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Qantas had already began the slide before Joyce took over. ala Dixon.
 
Looks like there are some new drinking buddies!

Virgin in talks with Tourism Australia to replace Qantas as key sponsor


VIRGIN Australia is seeking to expand its relationship with Tourism Australia in the wake of the Qantas’s decision to pull funding from the agency amid a spat with chairman Geoff Dixon.

Virgin chief executive John Borghetti confirmed that he had drinks last night with Mr Dixon at the Rockpool Bar in Sydney to discuss the airline’s tourism marketing plans.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...s-as-key-sponsor/story-e6frg95x-1226527382013
 
markis10 said:
Looks like there are some new drinking buddies!

Virgin in talks with Tourism Australia to replace Qantas as key sponsor


VIRGIN Australia is seeking to expand its relationship with Tourism Australia in the wake of the Qantas’s decision to pull funding from the agency amid a spat with chairman Geoff Dixon.

Virgin chief executive John Borghetti confirmed that he had drinks last night with Mr Dixon at the Rockpool Bar in Sydney to discuss the airline’s tourism marketing plans.

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Can see it now.......come on down & hop on a virgin;)
 
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