Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[vetrade]

repete, it's probably a good idea to start working out now how to change your itinerary to bring it within the rules.
If you have a non-compliant itinerary your trip plans can be thrown into chaos at any time because eventually the QF system is almost certain to realise the error and, at the very least, cancel the BNE-ZQN leg.
The longer you delay finding a fix, the harder it will be to find award seats for your group. Better to be proactive than risk it.

 

[11sjw]

When cancelling bookings what has been the overall experience with points being refunded? Has it happened immediately or has it taken a few days?

 

[Mr H]

When cancelling bookings what has been the overall experience with points being refunded? Has it happened immediately or has it taken a few days?

Points are refunded quickly; money is refunded slooooowly.

 

[flapper]

When cancelling bookings what has been the overall experience with points being refunded? Has it happened immediately or has it taken a few days?

Tell the CC that you want the points refunded immediately. They can do it while you wait on the phone. You must ask or they may not do it immediately and it may take weeks. The refund of taxes takes 60 days.

 

[tooten69]

Hi all, I have been reading some of the back catalogue of the post and just had a few questions.

I am a while away from booking (4 people J in Sep 2023) however trying to do my research to ensure I'm ready. Some of you really have a wealth of knowledge!

1st question:
Below shows a flight from MEL to DOH which is available on the BA site but not the Qantas search. Would I be able to book this via calling the call center or could this be award seats not available to QANTAS

2nd Question:
I am trying to work out the best way to get out to WAW via MEL (4 People in J), a few ways I have tried is

MEL-DOH-LHR-WAW
MEL-NRT-HND-HEL-WAW

What are the best ways to get out of Aus in Business for 4 people (seems to be the hardest flights to find).

3rd Question:
Do any of you use expertflyer.com and is there a form or wiki for this? I cant seem to find it sorry (I am sure it exists) or any feedback.

Thank you all in advance

 

[motef]

Hi all, I have been reading some of the back catalogue of the post and just had a few questions.

I am a while away from booking (4 people J in Sep 2023) however trying to do my research to ensure I'm ready. Some of you really have a wealth of knowledge!

1st question:
Below shows a flight from MEL to DOH which is available on the BA site but not the Qantas search. Would I be able to book this via calling the call center or could this be award seats not available to QANTAS

2nd Question:
I am trying to work out the best way to get out to WAW via MEL (4 People in J), a few ways I have tried is

MEL-DOH-LHR-WAW
MEL-NRT-HND-HEL-WAW

What are the best ways to get out of Aus in Business for 4 people (seems to be the hardest flights to find).

3rd Question:
Do any of you use expertflyer.com and is there a form or wiki for this? I cant seem to find it sorry (I am sure it exists) or any feedback.

Thank you all in advance

Question 1 - the availability of flights on other carriers' websites is irrelevant. Carriers release different availability to other carriers. There is anecdotal evidence that Qantas either doesn't get the same availability released from Qatar or Qantas only releases very limited if not none from Qatar. The reasoning is all conjecture at this stage

Question2 - I find the easiest and most available route out of Australia is on JAL to HND or NRT. There is usually good availability then onwards to Europe. Same for CX to HKG

 

[DC3]

… Below shows a flight from MEL to DOH which is available on the BA site but not the Qantas search. Would I be able to book this via calling the call center or could this be award seats not available to QANTAS …

If using QF points, the seats need to be available through QF. I would forget about what you can see on the BA website.

If the QF Call Centre can’t see availability, then that’s it.

 

[GaryLG]

Question2 - I find the easiest and most available route out of Australia is on JAL to HND or NRT. There is usually good availability then onwards to Europe. Same for CX to HKG

I also found QF had good availability if you want another alternative tooten69.

 

[11sjw]

Tell the CC that you want the points refunded immediately. They can do it while you wait on the phone. You must ask or they may not do it immediately and it may take weeks. The refund of taxes takes 60 days.

So cancelling online is not recommended?

 

[Noah Count]

3rd Question:
Do any of you use expertflyer.com and is there a form or wiki for this? I cant seem to find it sorry (I am sure it exists) or any feedback.

I use EF and not sure if there is a wiki. Depending who you want to travel with not all carriers are covered for rewards searching. In my case 3 carriers that I use are not available on EF, 2 being CX and JL and relevant to this thread. The other is EK which is on EF however the rewards search is broken and has been for a while.

After looking at EF BA maybe BA is displaying phantom availability, these are the search results from EF for your MEL-DOH trip. EF is showing nothing is available.

 

[Must...Fly!]

What are the best ways to get out of Aus in Business for 4 people (seems to be the hardest flights to find).

Honest answer is to split your traveling party in to two groups of two. It will make things much easier.

 

[jase05]

What are the best ways to get out of Aus in Business for 4 people (seems to be the hardest flights to find).

As was posted elsewhere you could split the group or I find when we travel with others is that the best way is to use points from Australia to Asia and then pay for flights to Europe. It’s not for everyone I know but often some really cheap J fares

 

[Danger]

Hi all, I have been reading some of the back catalogue of the post and just had a few questions.

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3rd Question:
Do any of you use expertflyer.com and is there a form or wiki for this? I cant seem to find it sorry (I am sure it exists) or any feedback.

Thank you all in advance

The forum software doesn't support wikis, unfortunately. There is this thread for ExpertFlyer fundamentals: Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

 

[tooten69]

Thank you all for the tips.

 

[Captain Halliday]

Points are refunded quickly; money is refunded slooooowly.

I disagree on the former.

On 29 Oct QF cancelled a flight I had booked and so far no refund of either points or cash.

 

[GaryLG]

I disagree on the former.

On 29 Oct QF cancelled a flight I had booked and so far no refund of either points or cash.

It might be better to say usually then as I had the same problem but after a phone call the points were refunded while I was on the phone to the CSA. So most likely down to getting someone who does it correctly and holding them to account.

 

[Mr H]

I disagree on the former.

On 29 Oct QF cancelled a flight I had booked and so far no refund of either points or cash.

Literally - your mileage may vary!

 

[gfraser]

I am planning a OWA in November 2022 starting SYD - SCL In J.
Currently the points showing are a tad under 590,000 points and multiplied by 2 are a little over my points.
How do I make this booking within the 318,000 for a OWA?

 

[motef]

I am planning a OWA in November 2022 starting SYD - SCL In J.
Currently the points showing are a tad under 590,000 points and multiplied by 2 are a little over my points.
How do I make this booking within the 318,000 for a OWA?

You have to fit within the rules.

What is your routings and carriers?

 

[gfraser]

You have to fit within the rules.

What is your routings and carriers?

The rules are 318,000 for a J OWA,as I understand it , and have used in the past.
The route as planned is MEL - SYD - SCL with QF
BUE - ZUR with IB
Some internal Europe , as yet not planned and then
FRA - MEL with whoever