Australian state border restrictions

[Must...Fly!]

I am really negative about this development. It makes any movement at all pretty well impossible. I wonder if it’s jus5 the terminals, or the whole airport? That would impact on freight.

Especially with NSW as extreme risk for WA (very soon presumably) then this has all sorts of really severe consequences for aviation and rail freight personnel movement

 

[mviy]

Especially with NSW as extreme risk for WA (very soon presumably) then this has all sorts of really severe consequences for aviation and rail freight personnel movement

Well any air crew flying on routes to/from Sydney are presumably only flying routes to/from Sydney at the moment.

 

[nutwood]

Talking to Qantas crew and apparently Qantas are having to work around the issue of losing crew for fourteen days due to having passed through Sydney.
I suspected it before but I'm now certain that the lunatics have taken over the asylum!

 

[Must...Fly!]

Well any air crew flying on routes to/from Sydney are presumably only flying routes to/from Sydney at the moment.

You would probably think so.

With WA, the very sad reality is that not even compassionate exemptions willing to pay and enter hotel quarantine for 14 days and fully vaccinated are allowed under WA's extreme risk category.

“If you are someone who wanted to come home, who went to NSW over the course of this year and who has compassionate grounds for coming home, get yourself vaccinated, get tested and get on a flight now,” he told reporters.

“The window will close if we go to extreme risk for NSW.”

“If we go to extreme risk, that would mean that people coming in from NSW would be restricted right back to those people we can’t essentially block under the constitution,” he said.

“That is, federal bureaucrats on federal business, Defence officials and Commonwealth parliamentarians, but there would be strong restrictions on how those people can move around the community.

LOCKOUT: Window ‘closing’ for returning West Aussies

Western Australians in NSW could soon find themselves unable to return home on compassionate grounds, with Mark McGowan saying the window is closing amid a dramatic new high in Sydney’s COVID battle.

www.perthnow.com.au

Zero at any cost.

 

[nutwood]

You would probably think so.

With WA, the very sad reality is that not even compassionate exemptions willing to pay and enter hotel quarantine for 14 days and fully vaccinated are allowed under WA's extreme risk category.

LOCKOUT: Window ‘closing’ for returning West Aussies

Western Australians in NSW could soon find themselves unable to return home on compassionate grounds, with Mark McGowan saying the window is closing amid a dramatic new high in Sydney’s COVID battle.

www.perthnow.com.au

Zero at any cost.

That's already the situation for Tasmanians. I live in Tasmania and have essential traveller status. If I set foot in NSW, I can't come home, even if I was willing to quarantine for fourteen days.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

You would probably think so.

With WA, the very sad reality is that not even compassionate exemptions willing to pay and enter hotel quarantine for 14 days and fully vaccinated are allowed under WA's extreme risk category.

LOCKOUT: Window ‘closing’ for returning West Aussies

Western Australians in NSW could soon find themselves unable to return home on compassionate grounds, with Mark McGowan saying the window is closing amid a dramatic new high in Sydney’s COVID battle.

www.perthnow.com.au

Zero at any cost.

Well at least fair warning has been given.

 

[justinbrett]

You would probably think so.

With WA, the very sad reality is that not even compassionate exemptions willing to pay and enter hotel quarantine for 14 days and fully vaccinated are allowed under WA's extreme risk category.

LOCKOUT: Window ‘closing’ for returning West Aussies

Western Australians in NSW could soon find themselves unable to return home on compassionate grounds, with Mark McGowan saying the window is closing amid a dramatic new high in Sydney’s COVID battle.

www.perthnow.com.au

Zero at any cost.

If I had to get to WA in an emergency, I'd be getting an exemption to fly to Singapore and then return to WA as an international traveller.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Well at least fair warning has been given.

I reject the idea that fair warning can be heeded for all compassionate reasons. Sudden, unexpected things happen.

Reality is once NSW hits extreme risk, you are able to enter WA from any country around the world regardless of case numbers, but not NSW.

As @justinbrett puts it, if you are lucky enough to be able to gain an exemption, leaving the country to come back to WA is the only way.

 

[dajop]

If I had to get to WA in an emergency, I'd be getting an exemption to fly to Singapore and then return to WA as an international traveller.

I thought of that too, but might have to go to Dubai or Doha for that. Singapore is not allowing visitors from Australia at the moment, and only allows transits on single ticket, which would break cabotage rules and thus are not being sold ..... But there is availability sporadically into PER, on today's flight from SIN-PER, Scoot were selling at least 7 seats ....

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I reject the idea that fair warning can be heeded for all compassionate reasons. Sudden, unexpected things happen.

Reality is once NSW hits extreme risk, you are able to enter WA from any country around the world regardless of case numbers, but not NSW.

As @justinbrett puts it, if you are lucky enough to be able to gain an exemption, leaving the country to come back to WA is the only way.

Perhaps, but that also puts into context that the other Australian States/Territories/NZ are/might not allowing quarantine for travellers from NSW and the traveller needs to resort to Singapore (which has a 14 day quarantine requirement).

 

[twiningb]

From today's The Age/Sydney Morning Herald blog feed comments:


The "only way out" of what, precisely?

 

[nutwood]

I was trying to decide if the travel restrictions now are the worst they've been. Currently, the only "free" travel is between SA, Tas and WA but I'm finding it difficult to compare as there's other factors now that weren't there last year.
As an essential traveller, I could move freely last year, albeit at the cost of having to isolate. This year I cannot. I also have to wear a mask travelling, a requirement that wasn't there last year.

 

[justinbrett]

From today's The Age/Sydney Morning Herald blog feed comments:
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The "only way out" of what, precisely?

Freedom

 

[twiningb]

Freedom

I am so angry at what the media insists are the majority.

 

[nutwood]

I am so angry at what the media insists are the majority.

In what context?

 

[PineappleSkip]

Especially with NSW as extreme risk for WA (very soon presumably) then this has all sorts of really severe consequences for aviation and rail freight personnel movement

On my reckoning today's 7 day average new cases for NSW is 498. So this is a virtual certainty tomorrow.

Just musing over where I can travel from Qld right now. Looks like the only non-local options are Tas and Norfolk Island. Despite no lockdown.

Cheers skip

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

On my reckoning today's 7 day average new cases for NSW is 498. So this is a virtual certainty tomorrow.

Just musing over where I can travel from Qld right now. Looks like the only non-local options are Tas and Norfolk Island. Despite no lockdown.

Cheers skip

Always fly direct - don't connect!

 

[Princess Fiona]

I don’t know how but you would have to think that there must be some mechanism of the Federal Govt getting involved here and stopping this “extreme” nonsense.

What sort of world are we living in here ?
An Aussie Expat from NSW could fly back into PER from Florida etc and quarantine for 14 days.
But anyone from anywhere in NSW can’t ?

I want voted off the island soon.

 

[Jenya]

I was trying to decide if the travel restrictions now are the worst they've been. Currently, the only "free" travel is between SA, Tas and WA but I'm finding it difficult to compare as there's other factors now that weren't there last year.
As an essential traveller, I could move freely last year, albeit at the cost of having to isolate. This year I cannot. I also have to wear a mask travelling, a requirement that wasn't there last year.

Correct, interstate border restrictions are for sure worst they've ever been.
I am doing 3-4-3-5 weeks FIFO roster from Gold Coast to Broome (+ 2hr helicopter flight) and last year it was always possible via HQ in Perth at least.
Now I only managed to get there driving Gold Coast to Alice Springs, 2 weeks camping around Top End and than fly direct Darwin to Broome.
Now I ran out of options! So just going to skip next rotation with Leave without pay which will take me to December.
My only hope is 80% vaccination target to be achieved in WA by that time with arrival caps significantly increased. From Singapore at least
I am 99% sure QLD will be swollen by Delta very shortly same as NSW and VIC within one month from now.

 

[justinbrett]

I don’t know how but you would have to think that there must be some mechanism of the Federal Govt getting involved here and stopping this “extreme” nonsense.

What sort of world are we living in here ?
An Aussie Expat from NSW could fly back into PER from Florida etc and quarantine for 14 days.
But anyone from anywhere in NSW can’t ?

I want voted off the island soon.

I am starting to think, if QLD and WA are the only states dragging the chain next year, slip a referendum question in at the next federal election. You only need 4/6 states for it to pass and a majority of citizens. I think it would get there, as long as the other 4 states are ready to open up.

Then they would have no choice.