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So I tried this VM more expensive offering in a shape of SA Cab/Shiraz - we split the box three ways and a friend was happy to share bottle. As we all knew - it is McGuigan Philosophy 2013.

First thing first - it is a bloody heavy bottle. Weighing just under 2kgs. What are they compensating for was my initial thought. On my way walking to the restaurant in Kings Cross I felt quite safe as you could defend yourself with this weapon.

This wine is very very good and I think it definitely worth $50 we paid for it. It feels extremely dry in the beginning so you get a feel as though your palate and tongue suddenly became covered with sanding paper as you take the first sip but it is so well balanced with acidity that this feeling quickly goes away leading to a very long delicate finish.

I think from reading some blurbs that it is multiregional and is made to emulate the Grange - not really sure about that as its been three years since I had Grange - but one of my dinner companion immediately asked if he could get any more - it was that good.

It combines both characteristics - savoury and yet with enough fruit to create a harmony and a perfect balance.

A very polished wine and more medium rather than full bodied and I may put my two bottles safely away for a few years to see how it develops as it really felt quite young to drink. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about this wine but I am not any more.

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So I tried this VM more expensive offering in a shape of SA Cab/Shiraz - we split the box three ways and a friend was happy to share bottle. As we all knew - it is McGuigan Philosophy 2013.

First thing first - it is a bloody heavy bottle. Weighing just under 2kgs. What are they compensating for was my initial thought. On my way walking to the restaurant in Kings Cross I felt quite safe as you could defend yourself with this weapon.

This wine is very very good and I think it definitely worth $50 we paid for it. It feels extremely dry in the beginning so you get a feel as though your palate and tongue suddenly became covered with sanding paper as you take the first sip but it is so well balanced with acidity that this feeling quickly goes away leading to a very long delicate finish.

I think from reading some blurbs that it is multiregional and is made to emulate the Grange - not really sure about that as its been three years since I had Grange - but one of my dinner companion immediately asked if he could get any more - it was that good.

It combines both characteristics - savoury and yet with enough fruit to create a harmony and a perfect balance.

A very polished wine and more medium rather than full bodied and I may put my two bottles safely away for a few years to see how it develops as it really felt quite young to drink. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about this wine but I am not any more.

Magnificent drop
Thank you for this! I'm glad I bought it, I was only going to keep 2 and give 4 to my brother but now I'll keep my 3 👍☺️
 
Well overpriced at $90 and I think $40-50 would be fair. A lot of the Bec Hardy and Pertaringa lines were made for export and that RRP is probably the exported price
Hi Miso. Thought I'd hop in here and just correct the statement. 66% of the new Bec Hardy and Pertaringa business remains domestic distribution. Bec and I have been moving al lot of the former Geoff Hardy branded product of Pertaringa quickly to transition to new packaging and regain a consistent look and feel across the range so it's set for the next forty years. Cheers! Richard
 
Hi Miso. Thought I'd hop in here and just correct the statement. 66% of the new Bec Hardy and Pertaringa business remains domestic distribution. Bec and I have been moving al lot of the former Geoff Hardy branded product of Pertaringa quickly to transition to new packaging and regain a consistent look and feel across the range so it's set for the next forty years. Cheers! Richard
Hi Richard - I was also probably a bit harsh with my comments as we tried 2014 Vintage again a few weeks ago and all 3 of us were blown away. So happy to eat my words!

I think when I tasted the first bottle 3 years ago - it was a bit too young. I would imagine I could have kept it for much longer still.

You may not be able to answer this question, but why is it always heavily discounted on sites like Vinomofo, Winestar, Dan Murphy, sometimes on Wine direct from memory?

Cheers and welcome on board.

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Hi Richard - I was also probably a bit harsh with my comments as we tried 2014 Vintage again a few weeks ago and all 3 of us were blown away. So happy to eat my words!

I think when I tasted the first bottle 3 years ago - it was a bit too young. I would imagine I could have kept it for much longer still.

You may not be able to answer this question, but why is it always heavily discounted on sites like Vinomofo, Winestar, Dan Murphy, sometimes on Wine direct from memory?

Cheers and welcome on board.

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Happy for you to be as gentle or as harsh as you like. :) The beauty of wine is its subjectivity and diversity of opinion which should be celebrated, certainly respected. As I mentioned in my post, the purpose of moving through a few of these wines is to quickly move through the old Geoff Hardy branded product. Otherwise bringing brand consistency back to the entire range of wines would take much longer. The longer lead time wasn't acceptable to Bec and I. Cheers! Richard
 
Hi Miso. Thought I'd hop in here and just correct the statement. 66% of the new Bec Hardy and Pertaringa business remains domestic distribution. Bec and I have been moving al lot of the former Geoff Hardy branded product of Pertaringa quickly to transition to new packaging and regain a consistent look and feel across the range so it's set for the next forty years. Cheers! Richard
Thanks for clarifying Richard
Given the constant discounts across intermediaries - have you thought about offering some of this direct to consumer to cut out the middle man? I'm sure most here would be interested
 
Thanks for clarifying Richard
Given the constant discounts across intermediaries - have you thought about offering some of this direct to consumer to cut out the middle man? I'm sure most here would be interested
Distribution is about reach. Simply, you'll reach more more people, more quickly using distributors. I have no issue with "middle men", they're a valuable part of the distribution landscape. For most SMEs (us included) distributors have greater reach than we do on our own.
 
All I can say is that I am happy with the Yeoman that I picked up - the 2016. The year of my daughters birth, I would jump on it again for sure so I can crack a bottle every year until she’s 18
 
All I can say is that I am happy with the Yeoman that I picked up - the 2016. The year of my daughters birth, I would jump on it again for sure so I can crack a bottle every year until she’s 18
I grabbed 6 bottles between 3 of us! I was hanging for the Tipsy Hill, but before any CB they raised the price! It happens, I'm sure you can find the Yeoman on a deal somewhere?
 
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That was it - but it may have sold out

Edit @neozelatino

Sorry - here it is Shiraz Cabernet 2019 – Black Market Deal #37794

Meant to be this Greenock Road Shiraz Cabernet - Rosenvale Vineyards
I asked the winery for a review and this is what I got FYI

The only review to date is the one provided by Sam Kim of Wine Orbit.

We have sent the wines for review to Wine Companion, Jeremy Oliver and Huon Hooke and are awaiting a comment.

This is magnificently composed and styled, showing crème de cassis, dark plum, subtle tobacco, clove and cedar characters on the nose. The powerful full-bodied palate is filled with richness and delectable flavours, backed by fine chalky tannins, leading to an impressively long graceful finish. At its best: 2024 to 2039. $85.00. www.rosenvale.com.au. April 2021. 96 Points Wine Orbit, Sam Kim

Vintage: 2019

Variety: Shiraz 67%, Cabernet Sauvignon 33%

Soil: Sandy loam top soil.

Viticulture: Detailed spur pruning, Sprawl canopy, annual cover crop min till soil management, supplimentary water.

Climate: The growing season started dry and continued that way. In September, below average maximum temperatures but over 3 ºC below average minimums which delayed budburst and early vine growth. The drier soils combined with warmer than average October and November days meant vine growth caught up, but the below average minimum temperatures in November, and clear night skies resulted in another frost in November. If the frosts and dry conditions were not enough, the flowering period was windy and unsettled, and a hailstorm on 22 November topped it all off. The summer months of December and January experienced above average maximum temperatures.

Harvest dates: Shiraz – 2nd and 11th March. Cabernet – 15 March

Vinification: Shiraz 7 & 9 days in open fermenters, Cabernet 11 days in a closed fermenter. Both twice daily pump overs and open cage pressed.

Oak: 80% French, 20% American, 20% new barrel, balanced seasoned.
 
I asked the winery for a review and this is what I got FYI

The only review to date is the one provided by Sam Kim of Wine Orbit.

We have sent the wines for review to Wine Companion, Jeremy Oliver and Huon Hooke and are awaiting a comment.

This is magnificently composed and styled, showing crème de cassis, dark plum, subtle tobacco, clove and cedar characters on the nose. The powerful full-bodied palate is filled with richness and delectable flavours, backed by fine chalky tannins, leading to an impressively long graceful finish. At its best: 2024 to 2039. $85.00. www.rosenvale.com.au. April 2021. 96 Points Wine Orbit, Sam Kim

Vintage: 2019

Variety: Shiraz 67%, Cabernet Sauvignon 33%

Soil: Sandy loam top soil.

Viticulture: Detailed spur pruning, Sprawl canopy, annual cover crop min till soil management, supplimentary water.

Climate: The growing season started dry and continued that way. In September, below average maximum temperatures but over 3 ºC below average minimums which delayed budburst and early vine growth. The drier soils combined with warmer than average October and November days meant vine growth caught up, but the below average minimum temperatures in November, and clear night skies resulted in another frost in November. If the frosts and dry conditions were not enough, the flowering period was windy and unsettled, and a hailstorm on 22 November topped it all off. The summer months of December and January experienced above average maximum temperatures.

Harvest dates: Shiraz – 2nd and 11th March. Cabernet – 15 March

Vinification: Shiraz 7 & 9 days in open fermenters, Cabernet 11 days in a closed fermenter. Both twice daily pump overs and open cage pressed.

Oak: 80% French, 20% American, 20% new barrel, balanced seasoned.
I just received the 2019 Shiraz , and to be honest I couldn't differentiate it from the 2018. So very happy! Excellent value at the current price.
 

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