Tiger Airways announces 120 new jobs

[oz_mark]

Tiger Airways has announced up to 120 new jobs will be created at its Australian headquarters in Melbourne.

The carrier is adding up to 60 new flight crew and cabin staff, it was announced today.

A similar number of maintenance jobs will open up following the signing of a contract with John Holland Aviation Services.

Tiger Airways announces 120 new jobs - News - Travel - theage.com.au

 

[imapringle]

New destination(s) coming on line heh?

 

[JohnK]

Hasn't Tiger been cutting, or about to cut, existing routes?

 

[serfty]

There's a recent thread re not being able to book Tiger between MEL and DRW after a certain date.

• http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...-more-expensive-than-qf-13870.html#post180135

So Tiger appear to be cutting that route. As a result there will be additional servicing necessitated somewhere in Oz since their aircraft will not fly back to SIN from their MEL Oz base as much as is currently the case using this route.

 

[NM]

From news.com.au:

BUDGET airline Tiger Airways has axed its services to Darwin from Melbourne and Singapore, blaming high fuel and operating costs in Darwin for the decision.

Services to Darwin will be suspended from October 26, Tiger chief operating officer Steve Burns said.

 

[docjames]

And Qantas are now ecstatic that they've got TT off this route and can themselves drop DRW-SIN!

 

[JohnK]

They have also dropped DRW-SIN? Can someone remind me why Tiger bothered to start up in Australia? I thought it was all about picking up feeder traffic....

 

[oz_mark]

They have also dropped DRW-SIN? Can someone remind me why Tiger bothered to start up in Australia? I thought it was all about picking up feeder traffic....

Tiger are also here to make money. LCC's can be more aggressive in dropping non-performing routes so they can utilise aircraft elsewhere.

 

[oz_mark]

Tiger look to have also dropped SIN-PER back to one flight a day (was two), noticeably soon after Jetstar said it was going to start a daily service. Seem to be dropping a few routes that have Jetstar competition.

 

[JohnK]

Tiger are also here to make money. LCC's can be more aggressive in dropping non-performing routes so they can utilise aircraft elsewhere.

Are they actually making any money? There does not appear to be many reports of passenger loads on their Australian routes.

 

[docjames]

QF/JQ and VB report loadings because they're publiucally listed and have to for market disclosure reasons.

TT dont (at least in Australia) b/c they're "privately" owned. I dont think you can infer they're poor just from non-disclosure. i think you can infer they dont make any money on that route. Will be interesting to see if JQ pushes ahead with Darwin as a base - I suspect they will as they'll be able to connect into Asia with short haul aircraft.

 

[oz_mark]

TT dont (at least in Australia) b/c they're "privately" owned. I dont think you can infer they're poor just from non-disclosure. i think you can infer they dont make any money on that route. Will be interesting to see if JQ pushes ahead with Darwin as a base - I suspect they will as they'll be able to connect into Asia with short haul aircraft.

I would guess that JQ would find the same cost constraints that TT claim to have come up against. This may affect their willingness to develop a base there further.

 

[JohnK]

QF/JQ and VB report loadings because they're publiucally listed and have to for market disclosure reasons.

I understand but some reports of loads from passengers on their flights would be interesting.

TT dont (at least in Australia) b/c they're "privately" owned. I dont think you can infer they're poor just from non-disclosure. i think you can infer they dont make any money on that route.

I wasn't saying they were poor just because of non-disclosure. I know they are not technically the same entities but Tiger wouldn't be classed as a profitable airline in SE Asia.

They started their Australian operations with a bang and in my view have fizzled out. How long are they likely to survive in Australia?

 

[docjames]

I think it'll still be considered as:

1. "Protection" against TT returning from SIN-DRW etc
2. A way of extending JQ into asia (given link up with JQasia and the Vietnam airline ?Pacific air) in a relatively low cost way. Plus i'd say if you're going to base there, the airport gets flow-on benefits and will give you a cheaper rate.

If you think about it, the A320 will reach most ports in SE Asia but prob not Japan. I'l lhave to have a look and work out potential range / destinations in that range.

I'm sure the plan would be to have hubs out of DRW, Vietnam and proabbly BKK or SIN (if possible) with the three airlines.

 

[oz_mark]

They started their Australian operations with a bang and in my view have fizzled out. How long are they likely to survive in Australia?

I wouldn't underestimate them - they have only a handful of aircraft at the moment, and so they are heavily motivated by utilising them on the most profitable routes. In that respect they are showing an agility that the other operators in Australia perhaps don't.

 

[comint]

I understand but some reports of loads from passengers on their flights would be interesting.

Based on my small sample of TT flying, they have very high comparative loads. (The more relevant question may be regarding, the profitability of these loads? Although as pointed out above - routes are agilely ditched when they underperform.)

 

[docjames]

I wouldn't underestimate them - they have only a handful of aircraft at the moment, and so they are heavily motivated by utilising them on the most profitable routes. In that respect they are showing an agility that the other operators in Australia perhaps don't.

Agree. When you have 50 planes, you can persist and develop routes (before pulling out). If you have 5, you redirect them where the demand is. Dont rule them out trying again as conditions improve and they get more aircraft.

 

[docjames]

Range on airbus website listed as 5700km or approx 3000nm. Varies of course with number pax and cargo but that'll do as an estimate.

That should make BKK, SIN, ho Chi Minh, and possibly macau, HK within reach. Also Manila (!) if you need to rescue a plane load of 747 passengers.....

Beijing is a bit far at just over 6000km, as is Kolkata at about the same, but shanghai is only 4900 so that'd be a possibility too. but more likely to interconnect to Vietnam and SIN/BKK i'd think.

Will be very interesting.

 

[serfty]

... They started their Australian operations with a bang and in my view have fizzled out. How long are they likely to survive in Australia?

I believe they are in for the long haul - see post #4.

 

[moa999]

A way of extending JQ into asia (given link up with JQasia and the Vietnam airline ?Pacific air) in a relatively low cost way.

I'm sure the plan would be to have hubs out of DRW, Vietnam and proabbly BKK or SIN (if possible) with the three airlines.

That would now be Jetstar Pacific (BL) (18% owned by Qantas Group, moving to 30% by 2010)
Jetstar Pacific Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Appears first of the 320s is due shortly.

I think best for JQbrand would be to run an Asia-Pac network with hubs in SIN,SGN,DRW and OOL

Although note that it has been reported that JQAsia (3K,VF) is moving in different directions to JQ