What’s the point of being in a loyalty program with qantas?

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You can go online and select your seats prior to travel like every other travelled. Nothing special here.

To be fair (and assuming we aren’t being trolled) there are some nuances to seat selection for “QF operated by EK” flights that mean you need to select through the EK website not the QF website for them to stick. IIRC last time I flew on such a flight (SIN-BNE) I did select some seats on QF site when booking but when I went to EK site after ticketing the seats did not show up, and I selected them again.

Admist all the abuse on both sides, always important to remember that QF (and all airlines) create a certain “aura” around status that is largely just lounge access as defined + smokes and mirrors around “priority service”. It is understandable that the uninitiated may expect better customer service than is actually delivered.

Also the issue around calling security could be a response to aggressive behaviour “you are being aggressive i’m calling security” or “computer says no, I’m busy” and an expedient way of getting rid of a pesky (but not necessarily aggressive customer).

Just like we’ve been told after the recent meeting ... for US- Russia relationship problems - I expect fault is shared not just on one side :po_O
 
No I didn't rely on my status I relied on the Adice from Qantas and Emirates on line, phone staff and on ground staff. Cabin staff have always been respectful. In particular by my families quick responses to medical emergencies. ...
Having flown on over 1800 flights, more than 1200 on Qantas I can assure you the main task of customer service agents with any airline seems to be to get you off the telephone as soon as possible. Some will even outright lie to you rather than assist with a problematic issue.

I don't rely on them, I do whatever I can to improve the chances of my flight being more pleasant. This includes selecting seating online when traveling as a Qantas elite traveling on Emirates.

In general these things are learned by getting, using, sharing and passing on information and advice from my own experiences and what is posted here on AFF and other resources.
 
Is July possibly fake news seat allocation tanty month? Maybe August will be late bag delivery at MEL. September the rubbish spring menu in the F lounges, Oct must be agro for being kicked out of the J lounge due to thongs, November, to celebrate the Melbourne Cup will be about being cut off from service and of course December will be the annual rants about Sendle service for the entitled P1s out there .....
 
Is July possibly fake news seat allocation tanty month? Maybe August will be late bag delivery at MEL. September the rubbish spring menu in the F lounges, Oct must be agro for being kicked out of the J lounge due to thongs, November, to celebrate the Melbourne Cup will be about being cut off from service and of course December will be the annual rants about Sendle service for the entitled P1s out there .....

One of your shorter posts, but made me laugh. Bring on Sendle LOL.
 
Maybe austbt would be happy to take your blog story against QFA... anything for an "exclusive".
 
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Well I hope I am not complaining about the awful Flounge spring menu in September.
That’s a problem I wouldn’t mind having. My international travel has dried up at the moment.
 
If this post was a wind-up, I take my hat off to the real poster behind it. It was a cracker. But I suspect it may actually not be. Surely none of you were aware of my dislike of academic snobbery? And even if so, the rest of the details were too random, and far too cleverly supportive in causing the reader of the said post to form an opinion of a "person" that had only just appeared in this forum.

Yes I do intensely dislike people with lengthy studies believing they are better than others. I am NOT against such learning, I do really value it, but I also value what so many other people learn / strive for / contribute in Life that involves no University nor piece of paper at the end.

For the record Drron, I do have a tertiary education - believe it or not, in Philosophy of Science. But the latter university of hard knocks was an even harder degree :)

If this poster is real, I struggle between outrage at some of her apparent expectations and behaviour, and the desire most of us have here on AFF to actually assist people. I did try to help, but did it in a harsh way that has clearly failed in its objective.

I will survive that failure. I fail at many things. Probably because I only have a degree, not something higher ;)
 
I am actually appalled by this response. My family are not academics but medical practioners! On a number of occasions we have volunteered our services when travellers were sick or had panic attacks! Flying drunk is irresponsible and I'm am concerned that either Qantas or Emirates have allowed you to fly in such a state! Makes me rethink flying with either airline again! Shame on you!

Sorry all, but although it is late (midnight local?) I am unable to sleep without responding to this. Will try so hard to be civil.

I am far too obsessed with minute details. I am like this in every area, but in the interpretation of language used in "social media" and the era of texts, it is actually a valid emphasis. Much of communication, or all in an online forum, is dependent on understanding the small clues that bland text include that replace the more natural non-verbal clues that are actually vital to good communication.

Here, in response to this latest post by the OP, I must again focus on the use of non-word clues. And the classic phrase: " My family are not academics but medical practitioners!"

Lordy lordy, we get into even more sin.

So now I am understanding from the OP's message that she considers medical practitioners to be yet a higher level of humans. So amazingly so we need another "!"

She has elevated her status from academic snobbery to disdain of intellectuals who are not doctors!! I have known a few doctors. And I know some feel it is a special area. But the best doctors I have known (thank you all!) (and by the way, that was a correct use of the ! ) are people who treat their area of expertise with pride and seriousness, yet do not need some inflated misconception of superiority. If you are good at what you do, be it a heart surgeon or a baker, you have value.

So you have volunteered services when medical emergencies arise. A noble thing, if done for altruistic reasons. But again, I go beyond those few seconds of your life, to analyse the the total impact you have on people. I sense (not know) that you have also caused simple airline employees such distress that they needed to call security. How does this balance on your table of worth? Do you even think of this? I suspect not.

"Flying drunk is irresponsible". Why? I am not paralytic. It helps ease the boredom that truly frequent flying imparts. If you attracted security, you have already managed to surpass the impact I have ever had on others. Not a mean feat given the low level of travel.

And I have witnessed many other drunk travelers being barred - the airlines and staff know their job - they are also professionals, even though they may not have a doctorate in "whatever". But you are highlighting the fact that a drunk traveler who is calm creates less problems than you yourself create due to your outrage and misconceived perception of worth.

Aaaarrrggghhh - sorry all for my outrage. Just some people get under my skin.

For christ's sake, threatening to splash this thread over social media? I think the OP has shown just how well anything she posts will be received.....
 
"Flying drunk is irresponsible". Why? I am not paralytic. It helps ease the boredom that truly frequent flying imparts. (...)

And I have witnessed many other drunk travelers being barred - the airlines and staff know their job - they are also professionals, even though they may not have a doctorate in "whatever".

I also happen to have quaternary qualifications, but here prefer to focus on my past career.

From the perspective of the crew, someone downing a bottle of spirits in a lounge (or attempting to rival that intake on board) is an unneeded headache. Sure, you may miraculously be the one person who can just keep on keepin' on without bothering anyone, but why should we even have to worry about that? You do not *need* to drink that much. You do not have an unfettered *right* to drink that much.

I don't know how they do it elsewhere, but we would get regular communications from the Sakura Lounge as to those who appeared to have been overindulging, and if we allowed them to board, their intake would be slowed down to a trickle.
 
I also happen to have quaternary qualifications, but here prefer to focus on my past career.

From the perspective of the crew, someone downing a bottle of spirits in a lounge (or attempting to rival that intake on board) is an unneeded headache. Sure, you may miraculously be the one person who can just keep on keepin' on without bothering anyone, but why should we even have to worry about that? You do not *need* to drink that much. You do not have an unfettered *right* to drink that much.

I don't know how they do it elsewhere, but we would get regular communications from the Sakura Lounge as to those who appeared to have been overindulging, and if we allowed them to board, their intake would be slowed down to a trickle.

I was actually unaware until this moment of the term "quaternary". What is that?

You say there are systems that lounges have to alert crew to trouble-makers. (or potential). I stand by my record of never having had a problem. It is not alcohol by itself that is a problem. It is people. Individuals. "Unneeded headache"? I am certain that the crew that have "suffered me" did not actually suffer. They greet me on the next flight with warmth.

please do not put me in a box that you have. I will not fit.
 
You say there are systems that lounges have to alert crew to trouble-makers. (or potential). I stand by my record of never having had a problem. It is not alcohol by itself that is a problem. It is people. Individuals. "Unneeded headache"? I am certain that the crew that have "suffered me" did not actually suffer. They greet me on the next flight with warmth.

please do not put me in a box that you have. I will not fit.

I have indeed noticed that you consider yourself special. My point is simply that it's inherently selfish for you to ask a crew dealing with (say) 36 business class passengers to assess and recognize and acknowledge your specialness, rather than simply play the odds and assume that someone who's had even half a bottle of spirits is actually intoxicated. Such passengers were, quite frankly, a total PITA.
 
I have indeed noticed that you consider yourself special. My point is simply that it's inherently selfish for you to ask a crew dealing with (say) 36 business class passengers to assess and recognize and acknowledge your specialness, rather than simply play the odds and assume that someone who's had even half a bottle of spirits is actually intoxicated. Such passengers were, quite frankly, a total PITA.

All J pax consider themselves special. You reveal your talent in your "past' career. Pax are truly a PITA. Hopefully your next journey suits your abilities better :)

And what is 'quaternary"??
 
All J pax consider themselves special. You reveal your talent in your "past' career. Pax are truly a PITA. Hopefully your next journey suits your abilities better :)

And what is 'quaternary"??

Given my fairly low levels of academic achievement, (I often mention my highest qualification is a certificate for swimming a width) LOL.
I had to resort to research.
If one considers all of the definitions on offer “Quaternay” in this instance “COULD” refer to having 4 qualifications or a qualification of the “4th” rank. Either way it sounds impressive.
I can see mod intervention on the horizon as this descends into high farce.
 
Assuming that the OP was a genuine very miffed person, usually at this point in a thread where the OP seems to have disappeared I wonder if they’ve actually learned anything from all the very useful information and experience that others have posted. But quite often the OP just disappears after the rant.

@Mara, are you still there? Do you know what you need to do next time now?
 
I agree juddles.People are different at many things.As a young student I certainly overindulged in alcohol.I could appear to be functioning at a high level until I went to sleep.That was all that happened.So I would have been the perfect pax and given the FAs nothing to do or any problems.
 
Sorry to hear about your seating issues @Mara.

As a Platinum when I book EK flights on a Qantas itinerary a seat is automatically allocated on the EK flights based on my aisle preference. Not usually in the front economy cabin but close to the front. I thought this would also be the case for Gold?

I flew 25 sectors on EK in Y as a QF codeshare last year - roughly 20 of those as Gold (the remainder as Platinum).

Not once did I have issues making a seat reservation on EK but the trick - as others have pointed out - is to do so using the EK website; selections made via the QF website do not, IME, "stick". I've usually managed to get the seating area I've wanted - the exception being when it was a last minute booking and the cabin section I've wanted was full. All seats have been open, with the exception being bulkhead which - for EK - I understand can only be assigned at the airport.

Generally speaking, EK seem to value QF Golds travelling in Y far more favourably than QF themselves.

... and yes, I do wonder about the coincidence of a first-time-post tanty and NSW school holidays continuing this week.

Regards,

BD
 
Then there is your attack on juddles a person you have obviously never met or have the slightest idea what he does..

A great example of where this forum fails. The 10000+ post gorillas around here can attack any noobie in any way they like. If that person objects or responds the mob descends on them with their pitchfork and torches.

It goes both ways, juddles has no idea about the OP why defend their offensive attack on the OP?
 
I also happen to have quaternary qualifications, but here prefer to focus on my past career.

From the perspective of the crew, someone downing a bottle of spirits in a lounge (or attempting to rival that intake on board) is an unneeded headache. Sure, you may miraculously be the one person who can just keep on keepin' on without bothering anyone, but why should we even have to worry about that? You do not *need* to drink that much. You do not have an unfettered *right* to drink that much.

I don't know how they do it elsewhere, but we would get regular communications from the Sakura Lounge as to those who appeared to have been overindulging, and if we allowed them to board, their intake would be slowed down to a trickle.

So you like to control what others drink because you know best.
 
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