Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

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Currently doing a Oneworld F points itinerary

CBR/SYD/DFW/MIA/IAD/LHR/CDG/DOH/BKK/HKG/HND/CTS/HND/SYD/PER/CBR

Had to start in CBR (we flew down from SYD), so I could through the PER/CBR trip in later within the 12 months

Currently in Bahamas having done side trips to Cuba

A few paid short trips as well in Europe.

J from BKK/HKG, HND/CTS/HND and DFW/MIA otherwise all F

Lots of work to build this.

Have started the next one for 2018/19 in J through South America

 

[ozflier]

I also cannot find J award seats Aus/NZ to Santiago in november 2018.
I don't know if it is related, but i have been unable to book a 9 sector OWA online - ? a fault .
I successfully get to sector 5 and then I keep getting a 'bad gateway' error.
I've delayed calling QFF because I get sick of arguing with them about the extra 5000 point fee they insist on imposing despite doing my best to complete the booking online.

 

[exceladdict]

I also cannot find J award seats Aus/NZ to Santiago in november 2018.
I don't know if it is related, but i have been unable to book a 9 sector OWA online - ? a fault .
I successfully get to sector 5 and then I keep getting a 'bad gateway' error.
I've delayed calling QFF because I get sick of arguing with them about the extra 5000 point fee they insist on imposing despite doing my best to complete the booking online.

Silly question but definitely within all other rules? And are you breaking any married segments? i.e. if you're booking PER-HKG-NRT does the flight combo show up if you search for PER-NRT as well as the individual legs?

 

[ozflier]

I spoke with a supervisor yesterday - he confirmed that under no circumstances can Aer Lingus be used as part of a OWA.

 

[ozflier]

Silly question but definitely within all other rules? And are you breaking any married segments? i.e. if you're booking PER-HKG-NRT does the flight combo show up if you search for PER-NRT as well as the individual legs?

There are no silly questions.

My reply goes back to a post by Captain Halliday where he referred to "Married Segment Control" airlines.

I suspect Finnair is one of those.

I can book SIN-HEL mid october but not with a connection from Australia to SIN that is not a stopover -ie MEL-SIN-HEL thru flight allowed only if there is a stopover of >24 hours.

My question is:

if I go ahead and do book a OWA starting at Singapore (instead of Melbourne) ,

and, at a later date ,

I add the MEL-SIN sector on QF without a 24 hour stopover in SIN ( should there be award seats available) .

I'm guessing that, if Finnair has any involvement in the reticketing , it may not be allowed but I would value your advice.

 

[Captain Halliday]

My reply goes back to a post by Captain Halliday where he referred to "Married Segment Control" airlines.

I suspect Finnair is one of those.

I can book SIN-HEL mid october but not with a connection from Australia to SIN that is not a stopover -ie MEL-SIN-HEL thru flight allowed only if there is a stopover of >24 hours.

My question is:

if I go ahead and do book a OWA starting at Singapore (instead of Melbourne) ,

and, at a later date ,

I add the MEL-SIN sector on QF without a 24 hour stopover in SIN ( should there be award seats available) .

I'm guessing that, if Finnair has any involvement in the reticketing , i

There are no silly questions.

My reply goes back to a post by Captain Halliday where he referred to "Married Segment Control" airlines.

I suspect Finnair is one of those.

I can book SIN-HEL mid october but not with a connection from Australia to SIN that is not a stopover -ie MEL-SIN-HEL thru flight allowed only if there is a stopover of >24 hours.

My question is:

if I go ahead and do book a OWA starting at Singapore (instead of Melbourne) ,

and, at a later date ,

I add the MEL-SIN sector on QF without a 24 hour stopover in SIN ( should there be award seats available) .

I'm guessing that, if Finnair has any involvement in the reticketing , it may not be allowed but I would value your advice.

I’m not sure if Finnair uses MSC. @madrooster is likely to know.

If you book SIN-HEL on Finnair and later add MEL-SIN on QF, there’s no reason for Finnair to even know. So long as adding that sector is within all the other OWA rules, I don’t see a problem.

 

[jetpack]

if I go ahead and do book a OWA starting at Singapore (instead of Melbourne) ,
.

I wonder if changing your country of origin will cause any problems since the original ticket was ticketed by Qantas Singapore.

 

[ozflier]

Well, credit where credit is due .
My itinerary was even more complicated than i mentioned. In fact , there were similar problems to the above on the LHR-HEL-JFK sectors.
While I was cursing the screen, the qantas online chat box came up and a person called "Meble" came on line.
I told her the problems
He or she FIXED all the issues that 3 phone agents could not !
I am a very happy guy and got it all for 280,000 points.
Thank you all again for your support and advice

 

[ozflier]

In fact , Meble was able to do the booking Melbourne straight thru Sin to Helsinki so no need to worry - again thank you for your good point.

 

[creeno]

I have a question about Married Segments.

I have booked a set of RTW flights for 2 pax as follows:

SYD-ADL-DOH-BRU [QF/QR]
MAD-GIG [IB]
GIG-JFK-YVR [AA/CX]
YVR-HKG-SYD [CX]

Now, the last 2 sectors of the itinerary specifically are:

CX855 YVRHKG 26JUN 0930 1350+1 BUSINESS
CX161 HKGSYD 27JUN 2130 0845+1 PREMIUM ECONOMY

I had hoped to change the final flight to:

QF118 HKGSYD 30JUN 2325 1050+1 BUSINESS

On calling Qantas, we were told that we couldn't change because the existing CX flights were married segments. Is this correct? Does this apply when the 2 flights are in different classes? Really keen to get that J class home on the 30th.....but not sure where to go from here. If anyone can provide any guidance, I would appreciate it greatly! Thank you

 

[ozflier]

If the married segments rule applies , I do not think that class of individual segments makes any difference.

 

[creeno]

If the married segments rule applies , I do not think that class of individual segments makes any difference.

Thank you Would the fact that we are trying to add a stop in excess of 24 hours in HKG help the situation?

 

[Captain Halliday]

I have a question about Married Segments.

I have booked a set of RTW flights for 2 pax as follows:

SYD-ADL-DOH-BRU [QF/QR]
MAD-GIG [IB]
GIG-JFK-YVR [AA/CX]
YVR-HKG-SYD [CX]

Now, the last 2 sectors of the itinerary specifically are:

CX855 YVRHKG 26JUN 0930 1350+1 BUSINESS
CX161 HKGSYD 27JUN 2130 0845+1 PREMIUM ECONOMY

I had hoped to change the final flight to:

QF118 HKGSYD 30JUN 2325 1050+1 BUSINESS

On calling Qantas, we were told that we couldn't change because the existing CX flights were married segments. Is this correct? Does this apply when the 2 flights are in different classes? Really keen to get that J class home on the 30th.....but not sure where to go from here. If anyone can provide any guidance, I would appreciate it greatly! Thank you

Yes, I believe the CSA is correct.

Your problem is there is no J award availability on CX855 on your preferred date.

I expect you have that seat now as a segment married to CX161, but CX855 on its own is not available.

Cancelling your existing flight doesn’t automatically mean that seat is released back into the award bucket.

 

[creeno]

Yes, I believe the CSA is correct.

Your problem is there is no J award availability on CX855 on your preferred date.

I expect you have that seat now as a segment married to CX161, but CX855 on its own is not available.

Cancelling your existing flight doesn’t automatically mean that seat is released back into the award bucket.

Ah right, thank you for explaining that. Appreciate it.

 

[madrooster]

I’m not sure if Finnair uses MSC. @madrooster is likely to know.

If you book SIN-HEL on Finnair and later add MEL-SIN on QF, there’s no reason for Finnair to even know. So long as adding that sector is within all the other OWA rules, I don’t see a problem.

AY does indeed use MSC. QR, CX/KA, AY and sometimes IB all use MSC on award seats.

 

[sanne]

Is it possible to add a flight onto an existing booking when when trying to construct a 280,000 flight by using the qantas chat facility? I will be overseas when I need to add a sector - 353 days - will have wifi, but no phone.

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[cjd600]

Is it possible to add a flight onto an existing booking when when trying to construct a 280,000 flight by using the qantas chat facility? I will be overseas when I need to add a sector - 353 days - will have wifi, but no phone.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Should be fine
(unless you’ve started your 280k trip)

 

[sanne]

No I will still be in the planning stages. This will be the third flight of 5 in my proposed itinerary. It’s just that I won’t have access to a phone at the time I would need to book that 3rd flight but will have wifi. So that’s when I thought I could possibly use the on line chat to ask them to help with this booking.

 

[cjd600]

No I will still be in the planning stages. This will be the third flight of 5 in my proposed itinerary. It’s just that I won’t have access to a phone at the time I would need to book that 3rd flight but will have wifi. So that’s when I thought I could possibly use the on line chat to ask them to help with this booking.

Should be no problems to do it via chat, I’ve made changes to award bookings in this manner

 

[deebens]

This is a good laugh trying to get it to line up on the qantas site. Had this work SYD-HKG-MAN-LHR-JFK-YVR-LAX-SLC-SYD 280k changed an earlier date, came to the LAX-SLC again and it blew up saying too many browser refreshes. Went back and ran the previous dates and it blew up again. Had this work/not work on a few different itineraries. Always blows a gasket on the South American leg.