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The search feature is again doing my head.

Could somebody please direct me to the thread on the 28 Degrees MasterCard (particularly the information pertaining to changes in using the card to withdraw cash overseas) and the Citibank ATM that can be used overseas to withdraw cash fee free.
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Why is it that tradies think it's ok to stick all the iron and pailings for our fence on our new lawn?
 
Why is it that tradies think it's ok to stick all the iron and pailings for our fence on our new lawn?

Because that's where they usually chuck their stuff - big empty space, typically near the scene of the action or closest to the kerb / truck.
 
Nope. There was a pathway much closer.

Aaah... but then people get the ****s with tradies when they put objects in passage zones. :)

A simple sign that says "Keep Off This New Lawn Please" might have sufficed. ;) Though good luck keeping a new lawn in the Adelaide summer....unless you've been inundated with uncharacteristic rainfall.
 
Aaah... but then people get the ****s with tradies when they put objects in passage zones. :)

A simple sign that says "Keep Off This New Lawn Please" might have sufficed. ;) Though good luck keeping a new lawn in the Adelaide summer....unless you've been inundated with uncharacteristic rainfall.

I kinda figured most people would know that lawns and hot weather and plastics and metal sheetings are not a good mix. it's somewhat akin to telling people not to put your head in the oven.

Our lawn stays green throughout summer.
 
So how do you apologise when you've accidentally cut off a car driver?

I had a situation recently where I missed seeing a car when changing lanes and cut them off to the extent they had to slow down to let me in. The driver rightly honked their horn when I was going across and ceased immediately I was completely in the lane.

I was completely in the wrong and deserved the honking and not doubt the abuse the other driver was thinking.

But how do you show them that they were right and you were wrong?
 
Why is it that tradies think it's ok to stick all the iron and pailings for our fence on our new lawn?

That you got a tradie to turn up is a miracle in itself! I've been trying for several months to get a fencer to turn up for a small fence (about 30m). Re where they place the stuff, well wouldn't you discuss that with them prior to starting?
 
Clearly it is going to be my vent day. In the midst of setting up mum at residential care she is trying to organise a telephone line. It is supposed to be with telstra according to the home. Mum is currently with Optus. Before dad died the account was with Telstra but in his name. Mum never could get that line transferred after his death because somehow she wasn't him. Mum is legally blind. She has a speech difficulty from the stroke. She's not in a good way.

She rings Telstra to get her a line. Asked about Drivers Licence. Hmm, she is blind. But I have Bank Account numbers, a centrelink card. yada yada. Nope, not good enough. She has to go to a Telstra service center to prove herself. She explains that she is 87 years old, blind, has had a heart attack and stroke in the last 3 months and moving into residential care. And that her husband had a Telstra account in his name until he died. Not good enough. "Can I get my daughter to bring in all my ID if I can find the expired passport I have?". Nope, has to do it herself. She is overwhelmed and says its too hard at the moment and says goodbye. As she hangs up the operator wishes her "have a wonderful day". Sigh.
 
That you got a tradie to turn up is a miracle in itself! I've been trying for several months to get a fencer to turn up for a small fence (about 30m). Re where they place the stuff, well wouldn't you discuss that with them prior to starting?

Well, you see it was a miracle they turned up too! And we have a HUGE driveway so silly me thought the truck would reverse in and put things there - instead of tracking 20 metres to get to the lawn....
 
Clearly it is going to be my vent day. In the midst of setting up mum at residential care I am trying to organise a telephone line. It is supposed to be with telstra according to the home. <snip> Sigh.

Can't the home assist? Surely this must be a very common request?

Also, why does it have to be with Telstra? I wonder if the home is doing something dodgy? If they have a deal with Telstra then they should have easy installation procedures.

Talk to Optus and see what they say, after all for Optus it would just be a change of address.
 
That you got a tradie to turn up is a miracle in itself! I've been trying for several months to get a fencer to turn up for a small fence (about 30m). Re where they place the stuff, well wouldn't you discuss that with them prior to starting?

I needed one strategically placed steel support post replaced under our most used room (yes, the one with the TV in it), as the foot had rusted away. Put an Acrow prop in as soon as discovered (Jan '14), and finally looks like it might be replaced in next two weeks. Getting small but vital jobs done can be a nightmare.
 
Can't the home assist? Surely this must be a very common request?

Also, why does it have to be with Telstra? I wonder if the home is doing something dodgy? If they have a deal with Telstra then they should have easy installation procedures.

Talk to Optus and see what they say, after all for Optus it would just be a change of address.

I agree. I am going to talk to OPtus today and be "mum" but need her account details.

And yes, it does sound a bit dodgy re the Telstra thing hey? Unfortunately anything related to "accounts" the home doesn't assist with. The person at the home just said something like "Telstra have organised a line for each room and so it is our preference you go with them to avoid "complications". Ha, that didn't work, did it!
 
I needed one strategically placed steel support post replaced under our most used room (yes, the one with the TV in it), as the foot had rusted away. Put an Acrow prop in as soon as discovered (Jan '14), and finally looks like it might be replaced in next two weeks. Getting small but vital jobs done can be a nightmare.


The the hard part, on the Gold Coast, is not getting the job done but paying the bill !
 
I agree. I am going to talk to OPtus today and be "mum" but need her account details.

And yes, it does sound a bit dodgy re the Telstra thing hey? Unfortunately anything related to "accounts" the home doesn't assist with. The person at the home just said something like "Telstra have organised a line for each room and so it is our preference you go with them to avoid "complications". Ha, that didn't work, did it!

Have you got a power of attorney? I found that useful when dealing with Telstra etc
 
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Why is it that tradies think it's ok to stick all the iron and pailings for our fence on our new lawn?

Decades of collective Tradie evolution has determind that answer:

Because it is there!
 
Clearly it is going to be my vent day. In the midst of setting up mum at residential care she is trying to organise a telephone line. It is supposed to be with telstra according to the home. Mum is currently with Optus. Before dad died the account was with Telstra but in his name. Mum never could get that line transferred after his death because somehow she wasn't him. Mum is legally blind. She has a speech difficulty from the stroke. She's not in a good way.

She rings Telstra to get her a line. Asked about Drivers Licence. Hmm, she is blind. But I have Bank Account numbers, a centrelink card. yada yada. Nope, not good enough. She has to go to a Telstra service center to prove herself. She explains that she is 87 years old, blind, has had a heart attack and stroke in the last 3 months and moving into residential care. And that her husband had a Telstra account in his name until he died. Not good enough. "Can I get my daughter to bring in all my ID if I can find the expired passport I have?". Nope, has to do it herself. She is overwhelmed and says its too hard at the moment and says goodbye. As she hangs up the operator wishes her "have a wonderful day". Sigh.

Sounds familiar, in fact with mum it was worse - medical muck-up discharged as A-OK and severe stroke within 20 minutes leaving her right side paralysed, no speech but 100% knowing everything going on.

Any phone call always note down time call start, who you speak to and their title. For full effect get them to spell their name so they understand you are writing it down. In the rough transcript below I've left out the length of 'on hold time'.

So Telstra;
"Hi I want to arrange a direct debit to pay for my mothers phone account out of her bank account as she's had a stroke, is paralysed and cannot speak anymore."
"Are you Mrs XX"
"No, that is what I just told you."
"Well only Mrs XX can do it."
"How, she's paralysed and cannot speak."
"Privacy reasons."
"So you're telling me that you refuse to help any of your customers who've had the misfortune to become paralysed and lose their speech."
"No, only Mrs XX can operate the account."
"Even though all I am trying to do is get the account paid by her own bank account in the identical name to the Telstra Account details."
"Yes, that's correct."
"Can I please speak with your team leader or supervisor."
"They are unavailable, can I help you?"
"Well so far you are refusing to. I am happy to hold on until your supervisor is available, one to two hours no problem but it will make your call centre performance look very poor. But no matter I will hold for as long as it takes."
"I cannot leave you on hold."
"OK, then let's keep going round in a circle until they become available and then it will just be your performance that looks bad."

4 minutes later;
"I'll transfer you now."
"Thank you."

3 minute repeat of above,
"Can I please speak with whoever you report to."
"They are unavailable."
"Ok, can you please tell me there name so I can verify this when I contact the Telstra Company secretary once I finish with this attempt."
"I am unable to give you those details." (enter sub-routine where I say not true vs I cannot)
"Well, as a team leader I had hoped you were aware of the operating procedures, apparently you are not. Don't worry I've noted that down and when the recording of this call is requested by the Company secretary's office later this afternoon that will become apparent."

"I report to XX."
"What is her title?"
"Something something customer manager.'' (There were so many of these calls the titles are blurred).
"Perhaps you could go tell XX that you have said they are unavailable despite me requesting to speak with them 8 times in the last 19 minutes. That I know for a fact that Telstra policy is that any customer facing role is required to interrupt any internal meeting or break attend to a customer request if they are being asked as a result of an elevation request."

"I will transfer you now."

Again 2-3 minutes,
"Your suggestion that I take my mother into a Telstra shop has merits but not from your company's perspective. I will book the ambulance to bring her and I will also notify Channel XX so they can send along a film crew. But first I'll ring HHHHH's office."
"Who?"
"The Telstra company secretary and senior legal officer who reports to the Board. I am sure the negative publicity will not enhance your future."

2 minutes later.
"Can you fax me a copy of your mother's doctor's letter stating she is paralysed and unable to speak and then I'll process the direct debit."

Call length was over 90 minutes. Subsequent call to company secretary just under 4 minutes. Warm inner glow - many hours. An apology letter came a few days later, "We are reviewing our procedures after the serious flaws you brought to my attention."


Moral:
Google Telstra Company Secretary Phone ASX (should get it for you). Write down name and details, and commence battle. Hopefully it won't take 90 minutes but I won't hold my breath. Power company (I think it was) all done in 5 minutes. "Unfortunately this is something that is getting to be all too frequent a request."

ANZ Bank - after sending Dr's letter - also brilliant. May just have been the branch manager - he set up note on file, added additional anti-fraud protection just in case. Never a problem.
 
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Oh Ram. That is sadly, Gold!

We have similar issues. Maybe I will get mum to yabber at them for half an hour and the might gladly speak to me.

And I just got this text as she was using my mobile phone and they were told NOT to use it!
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