Yin Yang seating

[simongr]

I'm struggling to see how the pic allows a few extra rows to fit in.

Looks ugly, and would remove the benefit of having a vacant seat beside you

I guess for airlines there is no benefit to the empty seat

It also preclude teh need for an empty seat if you are not impinged by the pax next you. Not sure how the ying/tang will cope with COCS (customers of considerable size).

I guess if they manage to squeeze 12 abreast down the back it migth mae more space for a jaccuzi up the front

 

[straitman]

I guess if they manage to squeeze 12 abreast down the back it migth mae more space for a jaccuzi up the front

..... or a few more rows of 12 abreast seats :!:

 

[jasonja3]

If this concept ever gets legs, it will eventually spread to the J cabin as it becomes more accepted.:shock:

 

[straitman]

If this concept ever gets legs, it will eventually spread to the J cabin as it becomes more accepted.:shock:

...as per BA :?:

 

[serfty]

As per BA ...

Exactly, that's how they get 8 across J in a 747 main deck. (more than CX or QF)

i.e. using the Ankles are narrower than shoulders theory. v^ ^vv^ ^v

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

I guess for airlines there is no benefit to the empty seat

It also preclude teh need for an empty seat if you are not impinged by the pax next you. Not sure how the ying/tang will cope with COCS (customers of considerable size).

I guess if they manage to squeeze 12 abreast down the back it migth mae more space for a jaccuzi up the front

Nope. While an extra seat (or 2) across, the design requires slightly more space between seats and actually lose a row or 2. The extra column(s) more than makes up for this - overall seating increases.

 

[Prof Henry]

I had the 'pleasure' of a trans-atlantic flight in the BA Business version of yin-yang last year. I'm not very large at all but the guy next to me was. The size of his shoulders prevented the modesty screen from being put in place. It's also true that the attendants seemed to have some trouble working out who they'd served and who they hadn't; who'd used the call button and who hadn't. I'd avoid it if I could in future.

 

[JohnK]

That looks ugly.

No thank you....

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

I had the 'pleasure' of a trans-atlantic flight in the BA Business version of yin-yang last year. I'm not very large at all but the guy next to me was. The size of his shoulders prevented the modesty screen from being put in place. It's also true that the attendants seemed to have some trouble working out who they'd served and who they hadn't; who'd used the call button and who hadn't. I'd avoid it if I could in future.

Was this in the older version (fan screen) or newer version (opaque plastic screen)?

 

[Prof Henry]

the fan screen - what's the newer one like?

 

[NM]

As per BA ...

Exactly, that's how they get 8 across J in a 747 main deck. (unlike CX, QF where there are 6)

QF and CX are 7 across in J on main deck of 744, so BA only gets one more. They also end up with a very wide aisle on the upper deck where they have 4 across the same as traditional seating.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

QF and CX are 7 across in J on main deck of 744, so BA only gets one more. They also end up with a very wide aisle on the upper deck where they have 4 across the same as traditional seating.

BA gets 2 more across than most other airlines in the 777. 8 across in business vs 6 most other airlines (and just 4 on SQ's 77W).

 

[NM]

BA gets 2 more across than most other airlines in the 777. 8 across in business vs 6 most other airlines (and just 4 on SQ's 77W).

I don't agree with the word "most" in that context. Some, yes. Most, no.

From Seat Guru, I find the following airlines have 7 across in business class on 777 aircraft:
AF, AA, NH, OZ, CX, EK, KE, KL, MH, SQ, TG, UA

The following airlines have 6 or fewer seats across in business class on 777 aircraft:
NZ (4), DL (6), BR (6), SQ (6 or 4).

BA is certainly the most with 8, bit I would say there are more 777 aircraft configured with 7 across in business class than with 6 or fewer. And I think the same applies to operating airlines as well.