Would you book a 20 hour non-stop flight?

[cove]

Mrscove wants to try the direct PER-LHR as a tester in J on the 787. I guess that would be a tester for us.
My cpap batteries are good for 8 hours sleep each if the plane has a fail on power supply for my Resmed sleep machine.
I think the toilets for 20 hour flights may need to be increased in number.

 

[OzEire]

Assuming the aircraft has inflight internet, one of you guinea pigs could live TR the inaugural. My guess is it would read:

Lovely Flounge experience, looking forward to London, here we go

Oh... Champagne onboard! shame its not Krug but what a nice touch

Supper service was ok, took a while to collect the remnants... yay London is only 16 hours away :|

Everyone lining up for the loo, bustin but what can you do :\

Some poor pax is not happy that his IFE hasn't worked but we've all had to endure the server reset 3 times and its still broken. Give it a rest buddy :[

Will that baby ever stop crying, its still 9 hours to London!!

What do you mean the wine has run out

Seriously people the walking circuit goes clockwise, we're all bored and crabby just get with the program FFS :angry:

Did you know that if you add up the mile distances of all of the QF routes in the back of the inflight magazine they add to... dear lord what is wrong with me ?

Kill me. Mercy. Seriously, the pilots must have parachutes...

In CDG (diverted due headwinds) at remote stand waiting for bus... no lounge, 45 min we re-board for the hop to LHR :/

Crew hours expired. Heading to a 3 star hotel in a few hours, no QF ground staff. Trying to call my 5* in London so they don't cancel :sad:

 

[Deleted member]

Im guessing this TR is of an experience in whY ?

Assuming the aircraft has inflight internet, one of you guinea pigs could live TR the inaugural. My guess is it would read:

Lovely Flounge experience, looking forward to London, here we go

Oh... Champagne onboard! shame its not Krug but what a nice touch

Supper service was ok, took a while to collect the remnants... yay London is only 16 hours away :|

Everyone lining up for the loo, bustin but what can you do :\

Some poor pax is not happy that his IFE hasn't worked but we've all had to endure the server reset 3 times and its still broken. Give it a rest buddy :[

Will that baby ever stop crying, its still 9 hours to London!!

What do you mean the wine has run out

Seriously people the walking circuit goes clockwise, we're all bored and crabby just get with the program FFS :angry:

Did you know that if you add up the mile distances of all of the QF routes in the back of the inflight magazine they add to... dear lord what is wrong with me ?

Kill me. Mercy. Seriously, the pilots must have parachutes...

In CDG (diverted due headwinds) at remote stand waiting for bus... no lounge, 45 min we re-board for the hop to LHR :/

Crew hours expired. Heading to a 3 star hotel in a few hours, no QF ground staff. Trying to call my 5* in London so they don't cancel :sad:

 

[Deleted member]

I found it to be very good, but have only experienced the EK F Lounge a few times. maybe i got lucky ?

I've found the food in the DXB FLounge to be a long way below the QF FLounge standard. I would prefer a direct non-stop flight provided I'm in J/F

 

[snabbu]

I also voted no as I would realistically never choose a flight of that length in any class. As others have said stopovers and "getting there" is as much a part of the fun as the final destination.

 

[Mike65]

Like most, I'd vote NO in Y but could probably endure in J or above. All this extra "quiet time" people keep talking about is great if you can sleep. Personally, in Y, that 16 hours would equate to about 5x 20 minute naps interspersed with about 14 hours of discomfort watching the miles slowly tick by trying to find something interesting on the IFE that I hadn't already watched. In J, I might get a few longer sleeps, but would never get a "normal" nights sleep.
My last trip to Europe was 3x legs of about 7 hours each (MEL-KUL-DXB-FRA) with relatively short transits (about 1.5-2 hours each). Wasn't looking forward to the transits but in the end thought it wasn't too bad. Access to lounges makes a big difference though.

 

[Kezbar]

SYD to NYC would be ideal. I think only in a premium class though!

 

[Lucky_man]

Long Flights need a better approach to comfort. A long flight will inevitably have a bit of daytime so you can't sleep the whole time. The boarding pass should have at least two seat numbers. The seat number for the first half of the flight and the seat number for the second half. That way it can feel like two flights without the inconvenience of landing. New seat partner - relief from that snorer you got stuck next to - bit of a walk - fighting over locker space again - a refresher on the safety video would be in order by this point (was it jump and pull cord or pull cord and jump?).

 

[bmam]

Having the luxury of being time-rich, I would never even look at such a long flight sector. My last o/s trip was QF to SIN, overnight at an airport hotel, EK (QF) to DXB, change planes (with a comfortable time in the lounge) for my flight to LHR. Return was with Aer Lingus Dublin to Boston (stopover), American to Chicago (stopover), train to LA (stopover), Hawaiian to HNL (stopover) and QF home. Longest leg would have been the 10 hours HNL to SYD - more than enough for me. Also daytime flights all the way which, if I can achieve it, I much prefer as I can never sleep on board in any case. Of course, business travellers or those who have a destination deadline don't have that luxury.

 

[Anna]

I would consider booking it if it made the overall journey shorter and I was wanting to go to LHR rather than elsewhere in Europe. But QF hasn't bothered to do decent connections between ADL and PER for the PER-LHR timings, so I doubt I'll be booking it any time soon.

 

[OATEK]

The more I think about this the less likely I would fly to LHR in a 20hr trip. But I just might consider a SYD-CDG flight, although I am with the other oldies and not so oldies who think 20hrs without a break is more a punishment than a benefit.

 

[Lucky_man]

But QF hasn't bothered to do decent connections between ADL and PER for the PER-LHR timings, so I doubt I'll be booking it any time soon.

Slightly OT - but is this true? If they can get a MEL connection they must be able to get an ADL connection. This would be another slap in the face for Adelaide customers after they dropped all international flights from ADL while the number of international flights (over all carriers) out of Adelaide is growing strongly.

 

[JohnK]

Having the luxury of being time-rich, I would never even look at such a long flight sector.

I'd really love to know who is time poor that cannot afford an extra 2 hours for a connection?

 

[Anna]

Slightly OT - but is this true? If they can get a MEL connection they must be able to get an ADL connection.

Last time I checked, 4 hour layovers in both directions if connecting to/from ADL - or 1 choice of a 75 minute connection on the return, which I wouldn't book because I wouldn't trust that both my luggage and I would make it, especially having to change terminals in PER.

I'd really love to know who is time poor that cannot afford an extra 2 hours for a connection?

For me, it's not a question of being too time-poor to afford 2 extra hours, but journey length whether it's 22 hours on EK or 24 hours on QF via PER is a factor that I will weigh up along with all the other relevant things like price, flight departure and arrival times, SC earn etc. YMMV.

 

[dajop]

I'd really love to know who is time poor that cannot afford an extra 2 hours for a connection?

In business class, it's not so much about the saving 2 hrs for the connection, it's more about interruption free flight, that allows you to plan sleep/meals/entertainment without interruption. In my mind (as a veteran of SIN-EWR in J, which I loved for this very reason), that's more important than time poor/time rich aspects. Still not convinced by Y. Would have been better with a JL style 2-4-2 layout... but us economy travellers ONLY care about cost right????

L which I wouldn't book because I wouldn't trust that both my luggage and I would make it, especially having to change terminals in PER.

Don't think terminal change will be required, part of the pre-requisite for this flight was that immigration facilities would be added to domestic terminal so it could arrive/depart in domestic terminal (like in ADL).

 

[Berlin]

I don't fly Y for anything longer than 4 hours anymore so I'd definitely do it. I actually find that in premium cabins, the longer the flight the better: You can get totally stuffed on food and booze, comfortably sleep for 8 or 9 hours AND might even have enough time to squeeze in a movie and more food. This works best, of course, in First and I'd wish Qantas did consider having a proper F class on these flights again.

Saying all that- given that the A380 flights will stop over in Singapore again soon, I might actually prefer that option and if it's for the amazing food there alone

 

[JohnK]

In business class, it's not so much about the saving 2 hrs for the connection, it's more about interruption free flight, that allows you to plan sleep/meals/entertainment without interruption. In my mind (as a veteran of SIN-EWR in J, which I loved for this very reason), that's more important than time poor/time rich aspects. Still not convinced by Y. Would have been better with a JL style 2-4-2 layout... but us economy travellers ONLY care about cost right????

I don't disagree with you regarding planning and sleeping. I can sleep anywhere so no issue for me.

And yes I can understand that connections/travel times play a big part in booking flights but I'm more concerned that people would want/need to save 2 hours to reduce a 22 hour trip down to 20 hours.

Personally I'd feel sorry for anyone doing that trip in econony. Halfway through a 14 hour flight is a long time. This is now 20 hours. Oh well.

 

[dajop]

Personally I'd feel sorry for anyone doing that trip in econony. Halfway through a 14 hour flight is a long time. This is now 20 hours. Oh well.

I'm not entirely convinced it's all bad. It may depend on route/sector breakdown and also whether you're going home or leaving... I'm of the opinion that I'd rather a non-stop than a long sector followed by a short sector (and probably short sector followed by long sector better than both) . Also I find coming home non-stops are great, going out not so fussed.

I've done SFO-HKG-SIN a couple times in Y, and as we are on approach to HKG after 14 hrs in the air my thought hasn't been "Oh I am so looking forward to this 1.5 hr break and then another 4 hrs" in the air, it's more been "I wish we could just keep on going , I'd be home in 2-2.5 hrs earlier! Likewise LAX-NRT-SIN. But going the other way it hasn't bothered me so much.

 

[Drpopper]

I've already flown once non stop some time ago from SYD-FAB non stop (In admittedly far more comfortable surroundings then any F suite on a commercial aircraft) and I found that flight fine at just n 20 hours. I'd have no issues but I'd want F ... The J suites on the QF787 and refurb A388's won't cut it for that length.

 

[cove]

I used to go on the 100 seat all business class SQ A340 flying direct from Singapore to Los Angeles and return. Up to 16 hours wasn't a problem so probably 20 doesn't change anything much. 20 hours in economy would not be a lot of fun.