Woolworths reviewing partnership with Qantas Frequent Flyer.

[drross]

Have been a loyal Woolworths customer for many years. I received the emails earlier today both from Qantas and Woolworths, and have emailed Woolworths to say I will be looking for a different supermarket after December 15 if they proceed with the changes. While each trolley may not earn a lot of points, over time, and jumping through the hoops for bonus points when they're available, you reach the elusive overseas flights faster...

welcome to AFF Flyingdr. agree with your comments totally

 

[whatmeworry]

5) Why call it Woolworths Dollars? I'll get over the unimaginative name for a second which any primary school kid could dream up. Using the word dollars instantly locks down the value and creates no room to grow the program into anything more later on. People will link $1 AUD to $1 WWD and means devaluing the currency at any point in the future will make the conversion difficult for many.

Reminds me of itchy and scratchy money.

 

[Spizz]

Now for the new thread...."How to keep QFF active without Woolie's points? "

Purchase something for a $1 from Ebay through the QantasMall. Problem solved.

 

[shearsense]

Oh I don't know, Aldi is German. BMW, Meile, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, Audi, Lufthansa, Aldi...you can see where I am going with this?

Volkswagen....

 

[Dr Ralph]

Purchase something for a $1 from Ebay through the QantasMall. Problem solved.

Indeed. Might be timely to remind people of the conditions associated with QFF points expiry:

https://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/points-expiry

 

[whatmeworry]

Apart from the initial email saying not very much I have had no further communication from Woolworths.


So people who are using the EDR to keep Qantas points alive, the very infrequent flyers, what can they do?

Transfer 5k from a primary account and pass along to the secondary accounts and sweep all the points back to the primary account.

 

[Dr Ralph]

Have been a loyal Woolworths customer for many years. I received the emails earlier today both from Qantas and Woolworths, and have emailed Woolworths to say I will be looking for a different supermarket after December 15 if they proceed with the changes. While each trolley may not earn a lot of points, over time, and jumping through the hoops for bonus points when they're available, you reach the elusive overseas flights faster...

I'm sure you won't be the only person doing this and I'm also sure they just don't care.

 

[Dr Ralph]

Yes those several hundred thousands points over the years certainly wasn't "useful"

I doubt many earned that number of points. Most earned insignificant totals hence why they abandoned QFF.

 

[snabbu]

I doubt many earned that number of points. Most earned insignificant totals hence why they abandoned QFF.

I'd doubt many QFF'ers on this forum would NOT have earned that many points over the last few years.

 

[Dr Ralph]

I'd doubt many QFF'ers on this forum would NOT have earned that many points over the last few years.

Two hundred thousand + QFF points just from Woolies EDR in the last two years? Rubbish.

 

[andye]

25k this year for the andyes. Not insignificant and a reflection of spend in WW much of which will go elsewhere

 

[whatmeworry]

If you're changing your spending as a protest, just remember Dan Murphys is part of the WOW group.

Oh I know they are part of the WW group, but I still get discounts with gift cards and cash back sites with DM.

 

[shearsense]

We are in the presence of Paris Hilton-level greatness! Some serious shopping there

:shock::shock: you did? I earned like 250!!

Thinking about this rationally and from an entirely self-centred point of view I earned 40-50K PA from EDR.

(And Woolies lose)

 

[snabbu]

I'll miss the QFF points, but in reality they never amounted to any useful quantity - have a look at your EDR hub to see how few points you have actually accumulated via this programme.

So overall I can't see this changing my spending patterns.

You clearly haven't been optimizing your EDR spend over the last 4 years or so.

Two hundred thousand + QFF points just from Woolies EDR in the last two years? Rubbish.

Who is saying last 2 years? EDR promotions have been happening since at least the original thread started, ie: mid 2011. I myself have earned at least 50k points a year since it's inception which equates to almost a 280k J ticket. I'd guess many other savvy AAF'ers would be in the same boat. If you think that's not a "useful quantity" then well, that's your opinion.

 

[kpro]

26923 QF points from EDR since joining. Living in Sydney, all major supermarket chains are within a convenient distance. Like many others, the QF relationship is what swings me to shop at Woolworths. Remove QF, and I'll just head towards whatever supermarket is the closest at the time.

 

[greenfish]

We are in the presence of Paris Hilton-level greatness! Some serious shopping there

I'll miss the EDR bonus offers, the last one (1000 points for a $300 spend) means I now own a years worth of dishwasher tabs

I'm a 75% Coles / 25% WW shopper, with the 30% almost entirely driven by the bonus points offers. Will now be a 95% Coles 5% WW shopper (the 5% being a few items I can't get at Coles or prefer from WW).

My 25% spend resulted in about 14,000 points in the last 12 months.

I'm surprised at the loss of QF points earn, but equally surprised that only specific items will earn WW dollars. There's no incentive to swipe every time - only if I know I've bought WW dollar earning items - this is really just a variant on the existing $30 threshold and suggests WW really aren't serious about data mining as they'll continue to miss many transactions (and not just smaller ones).

Seems poorly thought through.

 

[ABC1]

Here is my points earn over the years.. plus credit cards, Mainly ANZ Amex and Woolies Plat I've managed to get F and J flights to LAX. That's a lot of loyalty from me which will go.

 

[shearsense]

Familiar stories, unfortunately. Who on Earth would want to be part of a franchise in Australia these days? Frequent Flyer points would be the least of their problems...

With changes to the way in store promo planning is done (buying and marketing doing most of it centrally and each store having little to no control over it), stores will get sent stock for ends if they need/want it or not. Even things that don't sell in that area. Even lines that store does not normally sell.
The last numbers I heard, for a "medium" store, the store is required to tie up to 8 front ends (eg, in most stores that size, all front ends) and 1 back end. (these are the ones the suppliers pay for). This then leads to stores getting stock that they can't sell because buying and marketing don't listen to what the stores tell them, force stock on them, then blame the store when most of it needs to get marked down.

A lot of the problem is that the people at Norwest who decide a lot of things have never worked in stores before, don't listen to the staff who do and if they hear anything that goes against what they've already decided, they ignore it and act surprised when things don't work/happen the way they thought it would.

 

[blackcat20]

Only 26k points over the life of EDR, mostly because I have mostly lived with someone else so have shared the swiping. And Ive pretty much had no decent offer since June.

The grass isnt really greener. Todays FB offer is more than double the spend of the last multi-week offer, with half the reward...

 

[NVRENUF]

Get a credit card with points earnings. If people are purly earning points from EDR, then they are not really going to achieve much anyway unless they do some crazy shopping every week haha.

Apart from the initial email saying not very much I have had no further communication from Woolworths.


So people who are using the EDR to keep Qantas points alive, the very infrequent flyers, what can they do?